On 1/23/2014 10:42 PM, edman747 wrote:
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On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:28 PM, edman747 <edman...@gmail.com> wrote:

I want to unsubscribe. I do not know the password. pls, pls, pls let me go.


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com>wrote:

While I agree with what you are saying, what does cl_connectmethod have to
do with any of this?
On Jan 23, 2014 9:12 PM, "Robert Paulson" <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote:

First they came for the custom attachments, and I did not speak out.
Because I did not use it.
Then they came for fast respawn, and I did not speak out. Because I did
not
use it.
Then they came for increased slots, and I did not speak out. Because I
did
not use it.
Then they came for the MOTD, and I did not speak out. Because it would
hurt
others more than me.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me.

This is a repeat of the "Custom Tabs" fiasco. Except Valve probably
won't
remove it this time because they can wave the evidence that a minority
of
players use quickplay, despite the fact that quickplay has a monopoly on
new players and without them your server is dead. Your current players
won't play TF2 forever.

I saw this coming a mile away when Valve released the cl_connectmethod
convar. As I have said time and time again, Valve has obligations to
server
owners as well as players. We, or at least I, bought TF2  expecting not
to
have our hosting abilities crippled so much.

On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Doctor McKay <mc...@doctormckay.com>
wrote:

Why?

Adding a "Valve servers only" checkbox (that's checked by default) is
going
to hurt enough (and only those communities that are playing by the
rules;
cheating communities will just steal *more* traffic from the
legitimate
communities).

It's now all but impossible to try to retain a client who joined via
Quickplay (and those are the clients we *need* to retain). We can't
show
them our website. We can't even allow them to use a menu to jump to
another
one of our servers anymore.

Please think about what you're doing. If your intention is to harm the
good
communities, you're doing a fine job at it.

Dr. McKay
www.doctormckay.com
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