BTW, there's an amazingly detailed doc on plural forms here:

http://unicode.org/repos/cldr-tmp/trunk/diff/supplemental/language_plural_rules.html

(grabbed from the Rails i18n guide: http://guides.rubyonrails.org/i18n.html )

Not sure exactly who defines the split between 'few' and 'many', but the system 
can apparently handle breaking out pluralization to:

zero
one
two
few
many
other

The above guide will provide some details on using I18n.t; here's the link to 
the Hobo-specific info for things like <ht>:

http://cookbook.hobocentral.net/manual/i18n

Hope this helps!

--Matt Jones

On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Scorpio wrote:

> i'm not quite sure i get the order of things. i translated the whole
> yml file to the best of my ability and now do i need to put
> 
> your_key:
>  one: singular_word
>  many: paucal_word
>  other: plural_word
> 
> for every model at the top of the file or the version below? Because
> unless I'm reading this wrong they should do the same thing
> 
> pl:
>  activerecord:
>    models:
>      your_model:
> 
> Once thats done what do i do with statements like    edit_link:
> "Edytuj {{model}}" where i need a 4th form not the base one ?
> 
> 
> 
> Also.. where do i put the I18n.t('your_key',  :count => n) selecting
> the singular,paucal, plural forms? Sorry its my first try at
> internationalization and i'm green as grass
> 
> I'm gonna give an example so that I can be clear
> 1 Kategoria
> 2 Kategorie
> 5 Kategorii
> Edit/Update  KategoriÄ™
> 
> Sorry to ask for a step by step guide but I have no idea how to call
> those forms later in code (how do i tell i18n when to use what?).
> Secondly how do i tell the app to use pl.dryml for rails messages
> hobo.pl.dryml for hobo parts and app.pl for the grammar forms for my
> app and all?
> 
> On Oct 1, 10:11 pm, Domizio Demichelis <[email protected]> wrote:
>> A little clarification:
>> 
>> 1. Hobo i18n is simply Rails I18n applied to the hobo internals, i.e. you
>> can change/translate the strings that hobo produce as its output, but the
>> mechanism that do so is Rails I18n, not Hobo.
>> 
>> 2. Rails I18n uses the I18n gem to do its job, so the real engine is the
>> gem. If you are interested, you might google for it and read a little bit
>> about its possibilities
>> 
>> 3. AFAIK, the I18n gem has been designed to allows multi-pluralization
>> languages such as Polish, with a real simple but powerful way to do so:  it
>> looks up strings from a yml structure, and do its pluralization based on the
>> :count option. Set the right keys in the yml and pass the right :count and
>> you will pick the right pluralization for any word in any language.
>> 
>> 4. The pluralization of different genders is achieved by simply add a key
>> for each word or sentence you have to pluralize. I don't speak Polish, but I
>> speak Italian, Spanish and French that do have genders, and all those
>> languages have not only different genders, but also a lot of exceptions.
>> It's not a matter of a single "algorithm" to try to pluralize different
>> genders... it's just a matter of writing 2 or 3 or 4 translated string for
>> each word or sentence you have to translate, depending of how many plural
>> has your language, and even exceptions will be correctly translated if you
>> pass the right :count.
>> 
>> your_key:
>>   one: singular_word
>>   many: paucal_word
>>   other: plural_word
>> 
>> I didn't try with polish, but from what you said about pluralization I guess
>> that if your locale is :pl and you do something like
>> 
>> n = 1
>> I18n.t('your_key',  :count => n)
>> #=> "singular_word"
>> 
>> n = 3
>> I18n.t('your_key',  :count => n)
>> #=> "paucal_word"
>> 
>> n = 100
>> I18n.t('your_key',  :count => n)
>> #=> "plural_word"
>> 
>> So no algorithm, just plain key/value pairs.
>> 
>> Now, to answer to your question:
>> 
>> Is there a way to hard-code the plural and singular form of each model
>> 
>>> for say 1,<2,4>, <5, infinity) items in a collection and then make the
>>> i18n display that hard-coded grammar form depending on the number of
>>> items in a collection ?
>> 
>> Yes: just add the name of each of your models under:
>> 
>> activerecord.models.<model_name>
>> 
>> and add as many pluralization your language needs, like:
>> 
>> pl:
>>   activerecord:
>>     models:
>>       your_model:
>>         one: singular_model_translation
>>         many: paucal_model_translation
>>         other: plural_model_translation
>>       your_other_model:
>>         one: ...
>>         many: ...
>>         other: ...
>> 
>> Then you have to set the :pl as the locale and hobo will display the correct
>> translations.
>> 
>> Hoping that helps.
>> ciao
>> dd
>> 
>> 
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