ts-
i am guessing it is a browser setting on your computer as it works fine on mine and i am using FireFox. Here is a screen print of it just now: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v514/HolyGeek/foxfire_button_print.jpg Good luck fixing your browser to get it to work, probably nothing big at all. love and peace, joyce --- In [email protected], "ts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], Know Mystery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ts wrote: > > > > "# (diff) (hist) . . m Empowerments; 18:30 . . -ts- > > (Talk) (you are a control freak joyce ;)) > > # (diff) (hist) . . m Main Page; 18:29 . . -ts- (Talk) > > (you are a control freak joyce ;))" > > > > ~~~~ > > > > ts, the person with "control issues" is YOU. > > > > Someone (Lobster??) posted a pretty visual icon and > > you deleted it and replaced it with a text > > explanation. > > ~~~ > no icon shows up joyce. > not on my computer anyway. > i don't believe it can as he posted it ... > as pics cannot be remotely loaded ... > they have to first be uploaded to Wikicities. > is this not so? > ~~~ > > > You said that "no one knows what it is" > > ~~~ > yes. for the reason stated above. > is this not so? > ~~~ > > > Then you said that people need to be guided. > > ~~~ > only because it doesn't appear to me that there > was anything there other than the symbol that > wiki uses for an external link. just a little > blue box with a number in it. > is this not so? > > if this is not the case ... > and there is somehow an icon there ... > as gathered from a remote link ... > i would be surprised ... pleasantly so btw ... > and intrigued as to how that is done as i > am not aware of how it could be. > > i must say i was suprised that lob wouldn't have > caught it if it didn't work as he expected but ... > we all make mistypes and only realize it later. > > can you explain how this link works? > [http://www.spreadfirefox.com/ > http://sfx-images.mozilla.org/affiliates/Buttons/125x50/takebacktheweb_125x50.png] > > there is no icon visible on the wiki page [for me anyway] > and the link only takes me to http://www.spreadfirefox.com/ > > that's why i don't understand what he was trying to do. > now if the icon was uploaded to wiki ... > then we might be able to do: > [http://www.spreadfirefox.com/ | [[Image:takebacktheweb.png]]|] > or some such thing. > > but i don't see how it could work as posted. > afaik, wikicities doesn't not allow the displaying of > pics, including icons, from remote sites. > they have to be uploaded 1st. > please explain how lob could have gotten around this? > it would be great if this were so ... > so i want to know how it can be done. > i just don't see how. > > i wonder why this icon would show up for you ... > and not be seen by me. i am using firefox btw. > > anyway ... > i understand now why you think i sabotaged your efforts. > do you understand how i came to the same conclusion about > you were sabotaging mine? > i can certianly see then why each of us could conclude that > the other is a control freak [which may indeed be true] ;) > when in fact each of us was trying to make things clear. > only the data available for each of us is apparently different. > that makes it difficult to communicate about what we see, eh? > > can we see this for what it is? > a misunderstanding. a miscommunication. > > regardless of whether the icon shows up or not ... > and again, i do not see how .. > i misinterpreted what your motives were ... > and you mine. > > can we realize that? > and then get back to the work at hand without interfering > with one another? > > i'm game. > > but i sure would be interested in seeing how that icon works. > please consider this: > even if you can see it ... > my browser does not. > and certainly then there will be other people who will also > only see the little blue wiki box indicating an external link. > this is barely noticable on my browser ... > and certainly easy to miss altogether. > > [someone here please go to > http://peace.wikicities.com/index.php/Empowerments > scroll down to the bottom of the page .. > and let us know what you see, if anything. > let's do some indepentant scouting. > and please let us know what browser you are using. > thanks] > > so what can we do to ensure we do not leave those folks out? > there is a way i think, to put in alternative text. > then ... if the pic isn't loaded, the alt text tells what > should have been there. > that way everyone would have some clue as to what it was. > > let's explore then how this actually works ... > and see if we can get it to work for all. > > would that be acceptable? > > thanks > -ts- > ~~~ > > > > ts, the people there are adults. They do NOT need > > anyone to guide them, and if they need help, there are > > ample avenues for people to request it. > > > > Then you call ME a control freak. > > > > You state that people are incapable of using a simple > > button on a page without GUIDANCE from you... > > > > You are imposing your 'help' on people when they have > > not asked for it. Do you realize that is what you are > > doing? > > > > I think your intentions are probably honorable in that > > regards, but think about it. > > > > People there are not children who need guidance. If > > people ask for help that is fine... BUT to impose help > > when NONE has been requested is ... what? > > > > And that is the crux of much of the problem there - > > you have assumed the mantle of giver of guidance. > > > > To impose "help" when none has been requested is to > > project lack onto people... you are saying that people > > lack the intelligence or curiousity or [insert quality > > here] to use a simple web page... and you are saying > > that you are the one to guide them. > > > > People sometimes like to click on buttons and see what > > happens... there is JOY to be found in discovering... > > there is mastery to be found in trying and learning > > new things on one's own. Even with our own children, > > we need to let them learn many things on their own. > > > > The example of the icon we are talking about is a > > silly one but it says something. Lob posted a > > mysterious icon and you felt the need to delete it and > > replace it with "words" explaining what the icon was > > for. Do you also give away the ending of movies to > > people? Do you put a label on the outside of Christmas > > presents detailing the contents of the box? > > > > Why remove a cute picture icon and replace it with a > > text description? Why not let people experience the > > fun of discovering things on their own? > > > > Why not let people come to you and ask for help? > > Instead of imposing it unilaterally? > > > > I don't mean to sound harsh here, i am not feeling > > harsh. I just feel that people don't need you to > > interpret every little thing for them. Let people > > discover and contribute on their own. > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Send a seasonal email greeting and help others. Do good. > > http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> It is better to give.... Especially when giving to a child in poverty. Click here to meet a child you can help. http://us.click.yahoo.com/uq3f6C/hJlJAA/i1hLAA/wDkolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HolyGeek/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
