Milton, 40+ plus another 40+ would date these horns to before 1930, when the 
nazi were not at power.
The two horns should date from between 1934 & 1938 or early 1939 which would 
result in a maximum 
ago of between 76 or 71 years.

But I will inquire at Alexander in Mainz tomorrow to get more info.

Oooops, it could be a no-swastika also, as it is a decorative cross, much 
curled ,
which has nothing to do with a swastika art all. As I do not own a 103, I will 
ring them up in
Mainz so they will send me a picture of the valve, but I will also did in my 
collection of old catalogues, 
perhaps finding it too.

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Am 11.08.2010 um 17:06 schrieb Milton Kicklighter:

> Well thanks all for the insight into the swastika on the thumb valve cover of 
> my 
> horn.  I don't think it will ever be a problem going through customs as the 
> symbol is so carefully disguised that you would have a very difficult time 
> seeing it.  In fact when I was first told that if my horn was indeed a 
> pre-world 
> war two instrument, there would be a swastika hidden somewhere on the 
> instrument.  I looked for almost two months before I finally found it, and 
> even 
> though I sort of have it outlined, others that look for it have a very hard 
> time 
> seeing it.  
> 
>  
> Also, it is shaped a little different from the traditional swastika in that 
> their is a little curl at then ends of the lines.  The craftsman that did the 
> scroll work on the valve cover made the lines of the symbol a part of the 
> pedals 
> of the flower.  And the craftsman that did the scroll work did beautiful 
> work.  
> 
>  
> I will try and make a photo of the cover and post it on face book so those of 
> you that are interested can see.  
> 
>  
> I don't really have any interest in the swastika except that I have been told 
> by 
> several that it dates my horn to pre-world war two.  I do know that I have 
> owned 
> the horn for forty plus years and the gentleman that I bought it from had 
> owned 
> the horn for more than forty plus years.  And a good friend of mine that 
> played 
> in the Carborundum band when he was in high school with this gentleman had 
> another one of the horns.  
> 
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  Milton
> Milton Kicklighter
> 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic
> Retired 
> 
> 
> 
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