Why Kendall,

You could have been playing in Buffalo when Foss was here.  LOL.  OOOOOOOO I 
wonder who the compose is????  I have a great story about a "similar" 
composer.  
Maybe one day I will share it with all.  Never NEVER NEVER mess with the 
horns.  

 Milton
Milton Kicklighter
4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic
Retired 




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Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 1:35:02 PM
Subject: [Hornlist] Cuivre

Good story, Hans!  I did similar in Minneapolis some years back.  We were 
recording a piece of S**T by our rather arrogant composer in residence  at 
the time who will remain anonymous.  He was coming out to the podium to  give 
instructions both to our conductor and us before each take.  At one  point 
he looks at the horns and says:

"Horns, bar 355, cuivre!"

4th horn: "you want it stopped?"

"No!  I want Cuivre!"

3rd horn: "You want it louder?"

"No!  Cuivre!  CUIVRE!"

2nd horn: "What exactly do you want?"

"I've told you over and over, I WANT IT CUIVRE!!!"

1st horn (moi) standing up and pointing at my third valve cap "OK.  Got 
it!  We'll just push our cuivre buttons.  No problem!"

We just played it so loud it would peel paint.  After the next break,  he 
came back for more instructions for others and then looked at us and  said:

"And oh, horns, that was simply marvelous!  Leave those cuivre buttons  on 
all day!"

KB


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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:56:09 +0100
From: Hans Pizka  <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] The Girl from Arles
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Sorry, Martin,

bells up might be  right for certain compositions but not for L?Arlesienne.
One has to take  the compositions title into consideration also.

I produced a scandal  about "cuivre" and its interpretation, years ago, 
with 
famous conductor  Igor Markevich, in front of the orchestra. He insisted 
always: "blay  
kuivree, KUIVREE !!" - I said (playing light weight brassy as usual in  
French music):
"Sorry, Maestro, I am doing it always as written in my  part." - "Thaz not 
Kuivree ! Kuivree 
mast be pouchee !" - "Sorry, Maestro,  the one has nothing to do with the 
other !" -
"You blay kuivree as pouchee  now !" - "Sorry, Maestro, how should I play 
this passage: 
cuivre or bouche  ?" - No more from the maestro. I played the passage 
French style light  
weight brassy with a bit stressy embouchure. It worked fine & sounded  fine.

But Markevich denounced me at the administration, who sent me a  warning 
letter. 
But they had to draw back the warning letter, as they had  forgotten to 
hear my version 
of the case first.

Markevich was a  quite well known conductor, but famous for his despotic 
attitudes. But a  
guest conductor must not behave like he  did.

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