The famous/ infamous No.22 in "Cosi fan tutte" is not that difficult, if
one fingers all on the F-side including our c'/dfl with F2 (not F12) & just 
uses the Bb-side 2 
for the g# (23) & the f# (2) & the following trill using F2 /0, c# on F2.
Yes, 2nd horn (battere come secundo corno - the typical passage for 2nd horn)
is on E-horn (all F2), except the f#, right on Bb2, perfect.

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Am 15.02.2011 um 18:42 schrieb Chris Wilhjelm:

> 
> I agree with you Hans.  E has always been one of my favorite keys for
> the horn.  The only passage that used to give me a little extra practice
> panic was the aria in Cosi.  I am sure there are others, but I haven't
> come across them in my limited experience.  In the day when I was
> playing stuff like this, I was playing a 103 and I had to play it on the
> B flat side.  When playing the second horn solo, I could stay on the F
> side (though I threw the B flat down for the written F# at the top).  
> Had I the smarts (or the $$) to get an extended (or shortened) slide
> like many of our illustrious well-known colleagues (or a stopping
> valve), I would have made life a bit easier ...  but what's the fun in
> that?? 
> 
> As far as Armida is concerned, Scott is a long time friend (you are
> friends as well?) and he is a fine player.  When he tells me the parts
> are tricky, I tend to believe him. 
> 
> Thanks for the recording suggestion. 
> 
> best 
> c 
> 
> 
> 
>>>> Hans Pizka <[email protected]> 2/15/2011 11:56 AM >>>
> Hello Chris, what is so difficult on the horn soli within Rossinís
> music ? is it the key ß Most of these soli
> are in E. Ooops, that́s the main difficulty for the notorious Bb-side
> players. But areńt  these solos much easier
> on the F-side ? And they do not go high either, but have very tricky
> passages for the Bb-horn user.
> 
> These soli are not longer than a few measures, like in "A Turk in
> Italy" or "Il Barbiere". Every reasonable
> horn player must be able to play them in public after reading or/and
> playing them through just a few times.
> 
> All these soli are quite common stuff. This like passages are all
> included in the two Kopprasch books, - and
> as they were written in a natural horn style, the technical
> difficulties are limited, - except the tonality E, which
> still horrifies the Bb-users & Bb-thinkers.
> 
> Armida should not be any exception. As Rossinís father was a horn
> player, Rossini knew very well, how to
> write for the horn in a way, that his compositions could be performed
> properly, even then back.
> 
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> Am 15.02.2011 um 14:55 schrieb Chris Wilhjelm:
> 
>> 
>> As a dabbler in the conducting world I feel a real need to get out in
> front of what's going to happen here (it's a conductor thing)
>> 
>> Yes, I do know the difference between a bull and an orchestra,
>> 
>> I feel sorry for the snake and I'm okay with no skid marks
>> 
>> and I know that a conductor buried up to his neck in sand means that
> you ran out of sand.
>> 
>> of course this knowledge dates from the time before I turned from the
> Force and went to the dark side.
>> 
>> I was speaking to my friend Scott Brubaker on Sunday and he told me
> that the Met Opera will be doing a set of performances of Rossini's
> Armida starting next week (with Renee Fleming) 
>> I have NEVER heard this -  he went on to say that there are big solos
> for 1st and 3rd horn in the overture.  Does anyone have an mp3 or know
> of a good performance available?
>> 
>> As an aside, The Ridgewood Concert Band is performing the Overture to
> Siege of Corinth (another little played Rossini Opera with a beautiful
> horn solo in the overture) Tuesday 2/22  (principal horn, Carolyn Kirby
> is terrific).  This will be a joint concert with the Texas Christian U.
> Wind Symphony - info on the RCB website.
>> 
>> best to all
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>>> Walter Lewis <[email protected]> 2/15/2011 8:20 AM >>>
>> Paul,
>> 
>> As we all know, some conductors just need shooting!
>> 
>> Steve Mumford and I know of one here in Metro Detroit that is so bad,
> that he can't conduct electricity let alone a symphony orchestra. This
> guy falls into the category I just mentioned. Shooting his would be the
> only merciful thing to do for the sake of music.
>> 
>> Walt Lewis,
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 2/14/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Musicianship
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 10:35 PM
>> 
>> Hey Jerry,
>> 
>> What if it is a conducting class and someone is shooting at the
>> conductor ??
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jerry Houston <[email protected]>
>> To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Mon, Feb 14, 2011 7:33 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Musicianship
>> 
>> On 02/14/2011 04:06 PM, David Goldberg wrote:
>>> He might be on the illegal side too.  I just looked for information
>>> about this - it appears to be illegal in the USA.  Recommend that
>> anyone
>>> interested in this, research first.
>> 
>> You beat me to it.  I was going to note the need for caution (or, at
>> least, discretion).   Disabling cell phones prevents folks from
> using
>> them for emergency purposes.  If a student in the class, for
> example,
>> started shooting at folks (well, it's happened...), no one could
> call
>> 911 and report it.
>> 
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