Well, I don't know.  I like the Bb horn a lot and it never bothered me to 
play E tonality on either the F or the Bb horn.  Or the E horn for that 
matter.  Still only 3 fingers involved.  Geez, if you think that's hard, have 
you ever tried 16th notes over the break on the clarinet?  No, I get it, on F 
horn, you just put 2nd finger down and you can play 98% of it, but it's not 
that hard on Bb horn anyway.  Take one tuning slide out at random and leave it 
on the stand for more of a challenge if you need it.

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Hans wrote <snip>

 except the tonality E, which 
still horrifies the Bb-users & Bb-thinkers.
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