It's an amazing reflection on human nature that during some of the excesses of the last century there were a few men of religion who stood up against the evil. Small acts, but ones that serve as an ideal for us to try to copy. I recall the story of one minister caught up in the Nazi system who offered his own life in exchange for one prisoner who was one selected for death.
I was talking with my wife about tales of American POWs captured in the Philippines. One recounted how his faith in God sustained him while others gave up and died. She hit upon the crucial point, it was not an act of God who kept this guy going. It was his belief in something outside himself that gave him the ability to survive. Would that the acts of individuals who lived their religion had as much or greater impact on the world than those who do evil in the name of one religion or the other. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hans Pizka Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:03 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] woodwind quintet version of Mendelssohn's Nocturne Sorry, Andrew, are you following the footpath of certain fundamentalists, who mix the life of a creator of a piece of art with the character of a piece of art ???? We had such dark, very dark forces here in Europe until near the mid of the 20th century, who discriminated people & the related creations according to their religious determination or their race background. But we had them also several hundred years ago, when natural disasters were attributed to ordinary women, whom they called witches, because certain men were not admitted into their bedroom. We had such discrimination & we still have them today. But we have courageous men fighting against. One is Daniel Barenboim with his orchestra of palestinians & Israelis. He also fought through that Wagners music was performed in Israel successfully. And one question: is it necessary that we point on the fact permanently, how good we may be as Christians ??? In this fraudulent & selfish world ??? And many "super" Christians deny the same view of life e.g. the muslims, who have the name of ..... in their mouth every minute, but breach contracts etc. as soon as you show them your back & because you are not a brother of them. Fortunately, we have many liberal people who are not trumpeting their believe out to the public but keep them as part of their privacy. We also have a lot of people, who respect the believe of others by not touching their private sphere, who do not abuse "religious items" as decorations because it might hurt other peoples believe ...... ############################################################## Am 27.03.2011 um 00:12 schrieb andrew proctor: > > It has nothing to do with the life that Wagner led. It has to do with the mockery of the institution of marriage which is depicted in Wagner's work. Wagner and Mendelssohn's works are quite well crafted, but the mere purpose of the music being written for the fictional drama makes it quite inappropriate for such a meaningful event. > > I would try writing Bach's Air in G or Corelli's Sonata in F second movement. Better still, how about the Mozart Quintet slow movement? > > Andrew Proctor > > > May the peace of God which passeth understanding keep our hearts and minds in the knowledge and love of God and in his son Jesus Christ our Lord and the blessing of God Almighty, the Father Son and Holy Spirit be with us all, now and forever. Amen. > > > > >> From: [email protected] >> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:56:38 +0100 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] woodwind quintet version of Mendelssohn's Nocturne >> >> Hello Conja, >> >> we have some of this kind of priests or pastors, who take their religion word by word, >> ---- and we suffer from time to time the same way as other religions, where we >> lament about their fundamentalism. >> >> Music is a thing per se, no matter what others underlay text- or storywise. >> Why should a solemn piece by Richard Wagner - there are some - not be >> played in church just because he conducted his life not as a nice example >> for the youth ? Ridiculous. >> >> Very well said Conja (below) ! >> >> ################################################################ >> Am 26.03.2011 um 19:08 schrieb Conja Summerlin: >> >>> Andrew: >>> >>> I respect your belief system but in regards to whether the music is >>> appropriate, it's a moot point as the wedding won't be at a church that >>> prohibits such music. Point of fact, the pastor is a musician who knows that >>> instrumental music can be separated from it's title and help a congregation >>> be closer to God. Also, not a liturgical wedding, per se. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Conja >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 16:43, andrew proctor <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Regarding music from Midsummer Nights Dream by Mendelssohn or any >>>> fictional work used in a wedding, my church has offered the following as far >>>> as music allowances: >>>> >>>> Music such as the Wedding March and Bridal Chorus are written for dramatic >>>> texts which mock the institution of mariage and are therefore inappropriate >>>> for a liturgical wedding. >>>> >>>> Basically any music from the Baroque, Classical or Romantic style which >>>> does not designate a storyline will be okay. >>>> >>>> Andrew Proctor >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *May the peace of God which passeth understanding keep our hearts and >>>> minds in the knowledge and love of God and in his son Jesus Christ our Lord >>>> and the blessing of God Almighty, the Father Son and Holy Spirit be with us >>>> all, now and forever. Amen.* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:10:36 -0500 >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>> >>>>> Subject: [Hornlist] woodwind quintet version of Mendelssohn's Nocturne >>>>> >>>>> Hi all: >>>>> >>>>> I'm getting hitched this spring and am wondering if anybody knows of a >>>>> woodwind quintet (or sextet) version of the Nocturne from "A Midsummer's >>>>> Night Dream"? >>>>> >>>>> Answer here or offlist. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Conja >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> post: [email protected] >>>>> unsubscribe or set options at >>>> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/proctorandrew%40hot mail.com >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> post: [email protected] >>> unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/proctorandrew%40hot mail.com > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.ne t _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
