Steve, and how about ear training for those members ? What you stated is exactly causing this incredible low level of so many groups.
As I remember, you have perfect pitch. How can you bear this plenty of dis-tonation ? Why this refusal to learn, the refusal to bring their "hobby" to a higher level, special this refusal by people, who are superb in their day job ? Many of them think, good or superb in their day profession will make them great in their hobby also. Wrong, perfectly wrong. There they have to start over again & again. Having played in the high school band a year or so is not enough for a community orchestra, might be enough to scare cattle away, if they play in the bushes, but also giving reason for the police or the fire guards to intervene. And there are the absolutely insane programs for those orchestras arranged by megalomaniac self installed conductor tyrants, as they program pieces they would never be allowed to conduct with any professional orchestra. I heard of community orchestras playing Zarathustra, Heldenleben, Mahler 5, Mahler 6 (not to be ruined), Till, Bruckner 4 - 7 - 8, etc. Good for music libraries making some extra income, but not serving that music nor the composer. "Schuster bleib bei Deinem Leisten", an old proverb. or "Dont take in your mouth, what you cannot digest" (without pills !). ########################################### Am 25.04.2011 um 20:43 schrieb Steve Freides: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Hans Pizka <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Being enthusiastic about playing an instrument, is not enough. >> One also has to care about the basic rules of music and the basic rules >> of music making. It is not that difficult, as long as keeping discipline: >> learning discipline, practice discipline & playing discipline. > > Hans, being enthusiastic, along with a bit of background like having > played in one's high school band _is_ enough to participate in a > community band or orchestra. They are not professional ensembles, and > are often populated by people whose ear would never, in a million > years, entitle them to play in a professional ensemble, but that's > life. Everyone who cares about the basic rules of music making will > not necessarily have the ears to obey those rules. > > These are people who enjoy music and if they need their band director > to help them tune before they play, that should be OK with everyone - > including you, and including their bandmates. If a rare community > group rises to a higher level of playing, that's great, and then there > are auditions and requirements, but that is rare and, more to the > point, it's not why most of community bands and orchestras exist. > Rather, it's about allowing everyone who enjoys making music in a > group setting to do so. If attending such concerts bothers your ears, > stay home. > > -S- > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
