Also, I do agree about how the note should be stopped "like singers." I just 
question whether that should be the case for every style of music, or for 
rapidly tongued sections. Isn't it easiest to start the next note in a fast 
single-tongued section when the tongue stops each note to prevent the sound 
from going on for too long and to get ready for the next note? 

-William

On Jun 28, 2011, at 5:01 AM, Ralph Hall wrote:

> Hallo William,
> 
> I think there is some not very helpful advice flying around this  
> topic. Stopping the note with the tongue is a definite no-no because  
> it produces a glottal stop akin to exaggerating the consonant endings  
> of words. If you did this as an actor (and you, too, are a performer)  
> you would be laughed off stage. Milton is right; we should stop notes  
> like singers. Just stop blowing but with a slight closing of the  
> glottis to prevent a drop in pitch. This gives a 'beautiful' ending to  
> the note.
> 
> This 'tonguing on the lips' is really too awful to consider. I know  
> Dennis Brain once said in interview that playing the horn is easy,  
> 'like spitting a tea leaf off the end of the tongue' but he was such a  
> natural player - and never a teacher! - that he was never concerned  
> with the analysis of others let alone self-analysis. To pupils I  
> describe it like pulling the plug out of the bath water and then  
> letting it be sucked back in the plug hole with a clunk. Unless you  
> are in the extreme low register the tongue should just touch the soft  
> palette where it joins the upper front teeth.
> 
> Your particular problem sounds, at this remove, to be one of the lip  
> aperture being slightly too large for the pitch you are trying to  
> play. This certainly can produce the 'airy' sound you talk about and  
> under certain circumstances the feeling of a 'vibration'. We are, of  
> course, talking millimetres here, but try closing the lip aperture a  
> fraction more than hitherto and see if that 'purifies' the sound.
> 
> Another problem arises from using 'too much tongue' and that is  
> relying on the tonguing to achieve the pitch of note required. Any  
> problems in this direction and of note production and articulation can  
> be solved by playing scales without using the tongue at all. Produce  
> separate notes by using the 'tummy' muscles to push the air through.  
> You notice I don't use the word 'diaphragm' as this is a passive  
> muscle. Playing scales this way ensures that the fundamentals are  
> functioning correctly - the exact ratio required for any given pitch  
> between lip aperture and and flow of air. That means the embouchure is  
> working well and allows us then to add the tongue - as an adjunct -  
> not as a means to an end.
> 
> Best of luck, Ralph R. Hall
> On 27 Jun 2011, at 04:38, William Bard wrote:
> 
>> I've been playing the horn some seven years, having just graduated  
>> high school, and I will begin attending the Eastman School of Music  
>> this fall for a degree in Horn Performance. However, before I get up  
>> there and start school, I really thought I should ask the members of  
>> this board for some advice on an issue (I think it's an issue...)  
>> I've been noticing lately in my playing.
>> 
>> Back in February I had a lesson with Rick Solis out in Cleveland,  
>> and he pointed out that often times, when I articulate, it sounds  
>> almost as though the tongue is rebounding, or something is happening  
>> to make the tonguing not quite so clear and more blatty sounding.  
>> I've especially noticed this when I play loud or technically  
>> difficult passages.
>> 
>> He and Rich King both pointed out to me in my audition for the  
>> Cleveland Institute of Music that it was something I really have to  
>> work on and fix over the next few years; otherwise it could spell  
>> big problems for my playing. They said it will "hopefully go away"  
>> over time, but this still really worries me.
>> 
>> In addition, I can't help but notice an extra sort of buzz to my  
>> sound, when I play. At times, it is even very airy sounding. I can't  
>> figure out yet if this is my horn that is vibrating ever so slightly  
>> along with the pitches I'm playing, or if this is an internal sound  
>> that I'm hearing as the note vibrates through my mouth and possibly  
>> through my teeth, or what the heck this is.
>> 
>> Obviously, when I take the horn away and buzz on the mouthpiece,  
>> it's not just the sound of the note I hear, as I can also hear the  
>> air flow moving through the mouthpiece. Is tongue placement or  
>> something else possibly amplifying the airflow or sound of my buzz,  
>> so that it becomes noticeable IN ADDITION to the sound of the horn,  
>> itself?
>> 
>> Does anyone have any suggestions or advice regarding this? Or,  
>> furthermore, is this truly an issue, or is it actually somewhat  
>> normal? This is really puzzling to me and I really hope to get it  
>> figured out before it's too late! Thanks so much.
>> 
>> -William Bard
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