How about rear-buzz ????? ######################################## Am 28.06.2011 um 19:01 schrieb Herbert Foster:
> Some say you should free buzz, some say you should NOT. Some of us cannot > free > buzz. This may have to do with mouth and lip structure. > > One size does not fit all. > > Herb Foster > > > > > ________________________________ > From: William Bard <[email protected]> > To: The Horn List <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 1:42:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Articulation and 'airy' sound issues > > I think the position of the tongue is likely a big factor in this. Some days, > my > tonguing feels great and the easiest thing in the world, and other days it > feels > like a rock that I'm having to lug back and forth in my mouth. Not easy at > all. > I'm hoping this will clear up during college and in the years after, as I > gain > more consistency. I can buzz without the mouthpiece, but I have a VERY tough > time doing so. It's difficult to actually create pitches I want, without the > mouthpiece. > > > -William Bard > > On Jun 27, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Milton Kicklighter wrote: > >> Don't forget the position of the tongue when you are playing. I got into >> real > >> trouble a few years back not paying attention to the position of the tongue >> when >> >> I was playing. Years ago I found that leaking air for me was to much >> pressure > >> and not enough muscle control. Can you form a embouchure and buzz without >> the > >> mouthpiece? Or do you pinch your lips together when you try to buzz? >> >> >> Milton >> >> Milton Kicklighter >> 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic >> Retired >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: William Bard <[email protected]> >> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> >> Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 1:05:44 PM >> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Articulation and 'airy' sound issues >> >> The edges are closed tightly, yes. And thanks for the suggestion about the >> Italian language! I'll definitely look into that. Thanks. >> >> -William Bard >> >> On Jun 27, 2011, at 12:52 AM, Hans Pizka wrote: >> >>> William, are the edges of your lips (embouchure) closed tightly, so air >>> cannot >> >>> escape there ??? >>> Next, do not use that much air. Do not blow air into the horn actively. >>> Better, >>> >>> just release air >>> according to pitch, dynamic etc. >>> Third, study Italian language, to learn about clear vowels, absolutely >>> clear >>> vowels, and clear consonants. You will wonder, how that would improve your >>> playing, special tongue action. >>> >>> Good luck ! >>> ################################################# >>> Am 27.06.2011 um 04:38 schrieb William Bard: >>> >>>> I've been playing the horn some seven years, having just graduated high >>>> school, >>>> >>>> and I will begin attending the Eastman School of Music this fall for a >>>> degree >>>> in >>>> >>>> Horn Performance. However, before I get up there and start school, I >>>> really >>>> thought I should ask the members of this board for some advice on an issue >>>> (I >> >>>> think it's an issue...) I've been noticing lately in my playing. >>>> >>>> Back in February I had a lesson with Rick Solis out in Cleveland, and he >>>> pointed out that often times, when I articulate, it sounds almost as >>>> though the >>>> >>>> tongue is rebounding, or something is happening to make the tonguing not >>>> quite >>> >>>> so clear and more blatty sounding. I've especially noticed this when I >>>> play >>>> loud >>>> >>>> or technically difficult passages. >>>> >>>> >>>> He and Rich King both pointed out to me in my audition for the Cleveland >>>> Institute of Music that it was something I really have to work on and fix >>>> over >>> >>>> the next few years; otherwise it could spell big problems for my playing. >>>> They >>> >>>> said it will "hopefully go away" over time, but this still really worries > me. >>>> >>>> In addition, I can't help but notice an extra sort of buzz to my sound, >>>> when I >>> >>>> play. At times, it is even very airy sounding. I can't figure out yet if >>>> this >>>> is >>>> >>>> my horn that is vibrating ever so slightly along with the pitches I'm >>>> playing, >>> >>>> or if this is an internal sound that I'm hearing as the note vibrates >>>> through >>>> my >>>> >>>> mouth and possibly through my teeth, or what the heck this is. >>>> >>>> >>>> Obviously, when I take the horn away and buzz on the mouthpiece, it's not >>>> just >>> >>>> the sound of the note I hear, as I can also hear the air flow moving >>>> through >>>> the >>>> >>>> mouthpiece. Is tongue placement or something else possibly amplifying the >>>> airflow or sound of my buzz, so that it becomes noticeable IN ADDITION to >>>> the >> >>>> sound of the horn, itself? >>>> >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any suggestions or advice regarding this? Or, >>>> furthermore, is >>> >>>> this truly an issue, or is it actually somewhat normal? This is really >>>> puzzling >>>> >>>> to me and I really hope to get it figured out before it's too late! Thanks >>>> so >> >>>> much. >>>> >>>> -William Bard >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> post: [email protected] >>>> unsubscribe or set options at >>>> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> post: [email protected] >>> unsubscribe or set options at >>> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/wdbard%40me.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com >> m >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/wdbard%40me.com > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/herb_foster%40yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
