If money is no object, this is how I would prioritize horn selection:

1. Sound
2. Accuracy
3. Flexibility
4. Ease of Maintenence/Condition
5. Re-sale value


I'm young but I have a decent job, and so I've thankfully been able to try out 
perhaps a dozen horns in the last two years. Of those one was a Schmid double).

 


1. I have found that for me, the sound I want to have (and what you might want 
to have) is usually very personal. Some people sound completely different on 
the same horn, so find a horn that not only sounds good to you, but sounds good 
to others.
2. I know on some horns some notes are easier to miss than others. Accuracy is 
important. As my old orchestration teacher used to say, those that don't miss 
are the money players. But, you've got to have the sound they want first, then 
don't miss.
3. Is the horn flexible? Does it provide a good low register as well as a good 
high register? Is it flexible enough so that you won't have to swap horns as 
much? Does it have more bells and whistles such as a stopping valve or F 
extension to make life easier? Can you use other bells to modify your sound? 
Does it have a standard enough leadpipe taper to accept many types of 
mouthpieces?
4. If a horn has a good sound, is accurate, and is flexible, it probably is in 
good condition. However, some older horns have a lot of 'character', and still 
are amazing horns. Also, make sure you won't have to spend an arm and a leg 
fixing it once you buy it. It ought to be playable at purchase, unless you want 
to flip it or have the funds/time to get it repaired.
5. Can the horn be sold at a later time? I know you may think that the horn you 
want more than life itself will be what you'll keep until you die, but 
sometimes situations change, sections change, and tastes change. You don't want 
to be stuck with a very expensive horn that's hard to get rid of.

As far as looks go, I couldn't care less about how the horn looks to the 
outside world. We're the ones who have to be stuck with it, and some funny 
looking horns can get the job done.

Now, as far as triples versus doubles. I've never owned a triple, but I have 
owned many great doubles and many great descants. The high F (or Eb) side of a 
triple, I'm fairly sure, will not be used that often. Unless you're principal, 
you really won't need it that much. As far as the low range, again, that's very 
personal from player to player, but there are several doubles that are 
notoriously great on the low range, including Conn 8Ds and Paxman 25s. And, 
there are even some triples that are notoriously great in the low range - but 
they are fewer in number. My opinion is your accuracy should already be great 
in the high range, and the high F or Eb side should only help the accuracy by a 
few percentage points instead of becoming a magic pill to fix high notes. If 
you can't cleanly play high notes with a good sound, a descant won't help you.

In fact, I have it on good authority someone won a very good 4th horn position 
in the last few years on a Triple, then sold it after they won the audition and 
switched back to their Double. 

To sum up, as Mark Twain said in an episode of Star Trek entitled "Time's 
Arrow;", 'No one is more entitled to write your own story than you are'. At 
least with Schmid's, if you're not happy, you'll be able to sell it quickly, or 
order another Schmid almost exactly like it.

-William

 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Stacy <[email protected]>
To: horn <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Aug 11, 2011 10:55 pm
Subject: [Hornlist] Triple horns


Due to a recent change in fortune, I have the ability to finally purchase my 
own 

horn.  I have essentially two choices.

I haven't been able to extensively test either, but enough to know that both 
are 

worth having.  Now it is a choice of options.

Both horns are made by E. Schmid, both used.  

One is a double with a stop valve, and the other is a full triple in high Eb.  



The question I am asking is if I should go for the triple over the double.  I 

figure asking a bunch of seasoned horn players is a good idea for this.



I didn't notice particular stuffiness on the low f side.   I actually was able 

to get a free and open tone all the way down to the F horn pedals, and below.  

Or it may just be characteristic to Schmid, which I think is something he 
prides 

about his triples.



Is my logic in thinking the Eb horn is useful because of the fact it is yet 

another key in the horn, useful for transpositions in some cases, sound? Or is 

it unfounded?  This in addition to being a descant and all the benefits of 

having one?  Essentially in a similar manner of the transpositions of the stop 

valve.



Both horns produced a rich and dark sound, which is contrasting my naturally 

bright sound.



The double had similarly superb characteristics, and I noticed I could actually 

do large slurs(greater than an octave and a half) easier on it than the triple. 
 

The double also has the stop valve, which I have mentioned for transposition 

work.



So given my choice is purely between options now, which would be a better 

choice?  I am partly asking to get an idea of long term thoughts, and to get an 

idea of factors I may have missed.  



Thanks in advance!   

~JStacy

                                          

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