Nope!!!  As long as he sounded good on both horns. 

Milton

Milton Kicklighter
4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic
Retired

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>Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Triple horns
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>Just out of curiosity, if a candidate used a descant for only a small handful 
>of excerpts, like the Bach Quonium, Brandenburg, or even Beethoven 7, while 
>using a double for the rest, would you count it against them?
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>-William
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Ward <[email protected]>
>To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
>Sent: Fri, Aug 12, 2011 12:48 pm
>Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Triple horns
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>Hi all,
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>I've followed the discussion on triple horns with some interest. As of right 
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>now, I am not an advocate of the triple. The main reasons that I don't favor 
>the 
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>triple are as follows:
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>- They are too much of a compromise - in most cases, they seem to be a double 
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>horn with a high-F side grafted on, or, more commonly, a descant with a low-F 
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>side. In either case, something has to give.  Mostly they have poor low-F 
>horns, 
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>and that is a huge problem for me, because I think that the essence of our 
>horn 
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>sound comes from a good F-horn concept..  (see Philharmonic, Vienna). 
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>-They are too heavy to respond well. Schmid has tried to mitigate this, but 
>his 
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>is an imperfect solution, in my opinion.
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>- They are a crutch. Players use them because they have not worked out 
>properly 
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>how to play high in an efficient way. Or they are scared of clamming high 
>notes.
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>- You cannot play them loud on the high-F side and have them sound right. 
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>There's always a certain hollowness to the tone.
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>- It's actually more tiring to play a High-F side of a horn, because the 
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>perceived resistance is less, and so you have to work harder inside the 
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>mouthpiece.
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>- I can always tell in an audition when a candidate is using the high-F side 
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>a descant or triple.  It is not possible to disguise the sound to a trained 
>ear. 
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>And for our orchestra, we do not generally employ that sound. Now, there are 
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>times when I use my descant - certain pieces by Berg, demanding contemporary 
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>pieces, perhaps Shostakovich 5 on the high solo, or some high classical 
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>symphonies.  But it's just not that often. For example, I recorded every 
>Mahler 
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>Symphony  and never used a descant or triple. 
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>Some advocates of triples make the case that it is simply the evolution of 
>horn 
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>playing.  Perhaps. But it is not inevitable. If we have in our minds what a 
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>beautiful horn sound is and strive to play with that concept, everyone 
>benefits.
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>I think we ultimately become stronger players by minimizing the use of high-F 
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>horns and learning how to play efficiently, accurately and beautifully on our 
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>doubles. 
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>All the best to you, worldwide,
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>B
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>Robert N. Ward
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>Principal Horn
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>San Francisco Symphony
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