Just out of curiosity, if a candidate used a descant for only a small handful 
of excerpts, like the Bach Quonium, Brandenburg, or even Beethoven 7, while 
using a double for the rest, would you count it against them?

-William


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Ward <[email protected]>
To: The Horn List <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, Aug 12, 2011 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Triple horns


Hi all,



I've followed the discussion on triple horns with some interest. As of right 

now, I am not an advocate of the triple. The main reasons that I don't favor 
the 

triple are as follows:



- They are too much of a compromise - in most cases, they seem to be a double 

horn with a high-F side grafted on, or, more commonly, a descant with a low-F 

side. In either case, something has to give.  Mostly they have poor low-F 
horns, 

and that is a huge problem for me, because I think that the essence of our horn 

sound comes from a good F-horn concept..  (see Philharmonic, Vienna). 



-They are too heavy to respond well. Schmid has tried to mitigate this, but his 

is an imperfect solution, in my opinion.



- They are a crutch. Players use them because they have not worked out properly 

how to play high in an efficient way. Or they are scared of clamming high notes.



- You cannot play them loud on the high-F side and have them sound right. 

There's always a certain hollowness to the tone.



- It's actually more tiring to play a High-F side of a horn, because the 

perceived resistance is less, and so you have to work harder inside the 

mouthpiece.



- I can always tell in an audition when a candidate is using the high-F side of 

a descant or triple.  It is not possible to disguise the sound to a trained 
ear. 

And for our orchestra, we do not generally employ that sound. Now, there are 

times when I use my descant - certain pieces by Berg, demanding contemporary 

pieces, perhaps Shostakovich 5 on the high solo, or some high classical 

symphonies.   But it's just not that often. For example, I recorded every 
Mahler 

Symphony  and never used a descant or triple. 



Some advocates of triples make the case that it is simply the evolution of horn 

playing.  Perhaps. But it is not inevitable. If we have in our minds what a 

beautiful horn sound is and strive to play with that concept, everyone benefits.



I think we ultimately become stronger players by minimizing the use of high-F 

horns and learning how to play efficiently, accurately and beautifully on our 

doubles. 



All the best to you, worldwide,



B



Robert N. Ward

Principal Horn

San Francisco Symphony

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