Regarding mouthpiece bore, I have found out during my 30+ years of
travelling & teaching, that most students (players as well) use too
small bore mouthpieces of between 3,5 to 4,2 mms instead of 4,7 - 5,0
mms. And they wonder about the clumsiness or the "strangulated" sound.
As you said, Simon, the mouthpiece should compensate for the horn. 

Anyway, the extreme wide bore horns were a result of the tone deficiency
of many players created by the use of too small bore & too flat cup
mouthpieces. The reason for that (ab)use were the problems with high
notes, a very common problem, also a result of improper training &
schooling, skipping the step-by-step method.

About your Wiener Horn, Simon, I might recommend to change the F-crook.
Sometimes they do not fit right on to give you the best result.
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I have been using a Wiener Horn for the past 2 months and found that the
precision of the attack required of each note is crucial in a way that's
not
quite so pronounced on the F Side of my normal double (Alex 1103), in
fact
it's somewhat more akin to the precision required when playing on longer
crooks on a Natural Horn. If I use such an attack on my double it is too
"Pointed" for most passages; it's fine for certain passages where one
needs
to make a more marked expression such Meister Singers Ov or the Fugue in
last movement of Rach 2 for instance. There's almost a certain inertia
to
get over in both longer length of the lower crooks and also in the
Wiener
Horn. Wonder if the natural horn specialist might like to share their
experience of articulation on different crook lengths? 

I wonder how much or little resistance is in Matt's horn has and whether
or
not he uses a mouthpiece that adds more resistance or not? This
certainly
adds to the feeling of fuzziness for me - personally I find a horn that
has
little resistance need a MP which adds and a horn with much resistance
needs
a MP with less to compensate. Maybe the larger bore of the MPs needed on
the
Wiener Horn also add to this need for greater "Pointing" of attack?

Happy New Year to you all!

Simon



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