Thank you Paul and Hans for the great information. I have seen this videos and it's possible to see a little of the Wagner tuba.
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=A5ASRaHKOj0 http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=vlysW-I62bE http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=Nps1LMpzQCw http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=45RMIy2ZuKI >From what I can see they are using Engelbert Schmid Wagner Tubas (the bell is bent to the left side) Is there any other video on YouTube with a little bit more of the WT? I know a website called http://www.wagner-tuba.com/ that has a lot of information about WT, including a piece called "5 Dramatic Pieces for 8 Wagner Tubas" written by Andrew Downes, but I haven't found any discography Thank you very much for the help Robson Adabo de Mello Ps. Reinhold Friedrich did a great job leading the trumpet section...you know I'm a trumpet player 2008/4/10, Paul Rincon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > There is an LP with Roland Berger and Roland Horvath (both ex-members of > the > Vienna Philharmonic) where they play some Wagner Tuba/Viennese horn > concertos. > > I think the LP is called "Contemporary Viennese Music for Horn and Wagner > Tuba"...Although I'm not sure. Hans knows it surely, as it is the one > where > Roland and Roland look like they belong in "La Cosa Nostra". > > > Paul > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:04 AM, hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If you play a Wagnertuba the way most people play the Horn > > today (and they press a lot of air through the instrument), > > the Wagnertuba tends to blair too loud. So the approach is > > quite different. As the holding position is different also, > > one has to hold he WT in a way, that the axle through mouth > > & lead pipe is NOT bent, a position quite not so > > comfortable. > > > > Yes, intonation is different & somewhat problematic due to > > the open bell- One has to use some alternative fingerings > > when playing certain chords. Some malers tried to make the > > WT with a much wider bell like a tenorhorn to get an easier > > intonation, but ruined all the sound colours so important > > for the WT. > > > > The double tuba produced by Alexander is a versatile > > instrument but lacks all characteristics of both the F & the > > Bb tuba, which were built with different bell dimensions, > > the F much wider than the Bb. > > > > The WT is not a solo instrument, beeing played for a > > concerto with orchestra accompaniment, while there is a > > concerto by Jan Koetsier, who has composed a lot for horn. > > The euphonium or the tenor horn would be a much better > > choice as solo instrument. If I would be a composer, I would > > refran from composing a solo for the rather clumsy WT but > > use it in a set of two or four to express certain serenity, > > solemn impressions, ferocity, etc. according to the examples > > set by R.Wagner, R.Strauss, A.Bruckner & a lot of soundtrack > > composers. > > > > ============================================================ > > ============================================================ > > ========================== > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:horn-bounces+hans <horn-bounces%2Bhans> <horn-bounces%2Bhans>= > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On > > Behalf Of Robson Adabo de Mello > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:59 PM > > To: The Horn List > > Subject: [Hornlist] Wagner Tuba > > > > Hello Guys > > > > > > > > I'm a trumpet player, so if some of my questions are too > > basic I need to say "I'm sorry". > > > > > > > > - Is it much different to play a french horn and wagner > > tuba? > > > > > > > > - The wagner tuba has a problematic intonation or it's just > > different from the horn because it has a open bell? > > > > > > > > - The Alexander is the most used brand of wagner tuba? The > > model 110 is Bb/F or F/Bb? > > > > > > > > -Is there any solo video or CD with Wagner tuba? (When I say > > solo I mean in front of the orchestra) > > > > > > > > Thank you very much > > > > > > Robson > > _______________________________________________ > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > unsubscribe or set options at > > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. > > de > > > > _______________________________________________ > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > unsubscribe or set options at > > > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/robson.adabo%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org