Instead of "Does it have a nice even below the top of the staff" please read "Does it have a nice *sound* even below the top of the staff ?"
Sorry! I forgot a word... Robson 2009/5/3 Robson Adabo de Mello <robson.ad...@gmail.com> > Professor Hans > > I'm sure the high register can be played on a high bb horn (I believe it's > gonna sound very similar to the high side of a Bb/bb horn). What about the > "low" register? Does it have a nice even below the top of the staff. > > Thanks > I'm asking because Paul said the following > > "Hello Robson, > No, the Bb alto horn is very limited below the top of the staff- it is > generally used above written high G. > Almost everything below that requires a regular Bb horn. > I have a Bb/Bb alto model 60, made by Paxman and have found very little > use for it besides the Neruda and some other baroque concertos, and a few > other symphonic compositions, like the Haydn symphomy #51. > Paul Navarro" > 2009/5/1 Prof.Hans Pizka <h...@pizka.de> > > Yes, off course, but not much other use for this kind of a ??horn??. >> Playing >> this horn is no fun. One has to use a complete different mouthpiece (flat >> cup, broader rim) to make it sound pleasantly. Yes, it can sound very nice >> then. But you will not be able to play Mozarts "Figaro" the next day, >> because the normal embouchure will be gone. >> >> Do not believe, you could play higher than normal with this kind of horns. >> You just be safer in the high region & the sound will be much thinner than >> normal, - but that´s what is required for Neruda & Pokorny. If one does >> not >> have the chops to play up to concert bb2 on the regular double (that´s the >> Bb written atop the first ledger line above the staff - piano notation >> !!), >> this tiny horn will not make it. I mean, not just squeaking out the note >> occasionally, but play it as a perfect tuned note in the desired dynamic >> etc. Repeated: it is not enough just producing these top notes >> occasionally >> - at home in the bathroom, but on the concert platform with (nearly) >> guarantee not to break them. >> >> And these kind of music is not written for the amateur. >> Last argument: is such kind of music worth the investment ? For two >> concerts >> ? >> Isn´t it much better, to leave these concertos to the trumpet players ? >> Why >> not ? They can play them very nicely, perhaps using a "fluegelhorn". It is >> not a sacrilege nor a shame. It is also no shame to decline an offer to >> play >> such extreme high concertos or cantatas. >> >> People try these tiny beasts & risk to ruin their embouchure, as they try >> to >> compensate the missing overtones by playing effort, which destroys the >> embouchure in the short run. We know a lot of victims. >> >> >> ============================================================================ >> ================================= >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: horn-bounces+hans=pizka...@music.memphis.edu >> [mailto:horn-bounces+hans <horn-bounces%2Bhans>=pizka.de@ >> music.memphis.edu] Im Auftrag von Robson >> Adabo de Mello >> Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Mai 2009 03:36 >> An: The Horn List >> Betreff: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda >> >> I believe it could also be played with this tiny horn >> >> >> http://p30983.typo3server.info/fileadmin/images/bilddatenbank/diskanthoerner >> /mod_99.jpg >> >> Robson >> >> P.S. It's an Alexander model 99 (high bb) >> >> 2009/4/30 Robson Adabo de Mello <robson.ad...@gmail.com> >> >> > I believe it could also be played with this tiny horn >> > >> > Robson >> > >> > P.S. It's an Alexander model 99 (high bb) >> > >> > 2009/4/28 John.N Ward <john_n_w...@hotmail.com> >> > >> >> >> >> Lawrence >> >> >> >> My ex. wife and her new husband still do. >> >> >> >> I still repair and sell horns if they come my way. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> John. >> >> >> >> > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:05:32 +0100 >> >> > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda >> >> > From: yateslawre...@googlemail.com >> >> > To: horn@music.memphis.edu >> >> > >> >> > Thanks John. >> >> > >> >> > By the way - are you still running the Horn Exchange? I used to get >> >> lists >> >> > from you every year but I don't remember having anything for a while. >> >> > >> >> > Cheers, >> >> > >> >> > Lawrence >> >> > >> >> > 2009/4/28 John.N Ward <john_n_w...@hotmail.com> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > Lawrence >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > from my time at Paxmans during that period >> >> > > >> >> > > I'm sure that is what happened >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Cheers >> >> > > >> >> > > John Ward >> >> > > >> >> > > > Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:49:48 +0100 >> >> > > > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda >> >> > > > From: yateslawre...@googlemail.com >> >> > > > To: hans.pi...@t-online.de; horn@music.memphis.edu >> >> > > > CC: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > I heard a story about the recording of the Zelenka - >> >> > > > >> >> > > > WARNING: I have absolutely no evidence to support or substantiate >> >> thIs >> >> > > story >> >> > > > and I offer it as an amusing anecdote which may or may not be as >> >> true as >> >> > > any >> >> > > > other amusing anecdote doing the rounds. I cannot even remember >> who >> >> told >> >> > > me >> >> > > > this. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Anyway, the story was that Mr. Tuckwell took the high horn on >> >> approval >> >> > > from >> >> > > > Paxmans with a view to buying it, recorded the Zelenka, possibly >> the >> >> only >> >> > > > piece in the world for which he might need such an instrument, >> then >> >> took >> >> > > it >> >> > > > back. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Maybe someone from Paxmans or anyone closer to the events could >> >> > > substantiate >> >> > > > or repudiate this? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Cheers, >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Lawrence >> >> > > > -- >> >> > > > Lawrenceyates.co.uk <http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/> < >> http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> >> > > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu >> >> > > > unsubscribe or set options at >> >> > > >> >> >> http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/john_n_ward%40hotmail.com >> >> > > >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ >> >> > > Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/____________________________ >> ___________________ >> >> > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu >> >> > > unsubscribe or set options at >> >> > > >> >> >> >> http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.co >> m >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Lawrenceyates.co.uk <http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/> < >> http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > post: horn@music.memphis.edu >> >> > unsubscribe or set options at >> >> >> http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/john_n_ward%40hotmail.com >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> >> Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. >> >> >> >> >> >> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/____________________________ >> ___________________ >> >> post: horn@music.memphis.edu >> >> unsubscribe or set options at >> >> >> http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/robson.adabo%40gmail.com >> >> >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> post: horn@music.memphis.edu >> unsubscribe or set options at >> http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: horn@music.memphis.edu >> unsubscribe or set options at >> http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/robson.adabo%40gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
