Hi Francis, I totally agree regarding the $, we would need to be funded for this, but this is smth we could request based on these unique capacities. And definitely yes regarding the qualifications + the experience on disaster fields. I do not know how many of us have these capacities in the roster. Maybe not many, I do not know. This is one of the reasons why we started an internship program in Haiti. Reading Kate's answer in the meantime, seems not many :) I agree we may not be prepared for this now, but from my experience this is smth we should try to strive for. As an example, if ever a huge disaster as the 2010 Haiti Earthquake or Pakistan floods occurs again, I would like to help on the ground again, but having to work for some big agencies losing my time on useless papermaps products rather than activate communities and HOT response (even if I could do it a bit in parallel) would be really frustrating. If we cannot propose a HOT deployment to a funder so far, maybe we could propose to UN agencies (e.g. OCHA), when they are looking for GIS consultants, to deploy one or two experienced (and vaccinated) Hotties for ground activities and coordination with the remote community. They normally expect consultants able to do not too crappy ArcGIS papermaps, while we can provide, by combining the skills, baseline data collected remotely by the volunteer effort and by local mappers, community activation supported by an Ushahidi platform, trainings, imagery, specific tools, etc., etc.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Fran Boon <francisb...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 16 March 2012 13:36, Séverin MENARD <severin.men...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Soory I missed this chat but will be present to the next one. > > Remote response apart, what should be our potential ground deployment ? > I > > think a ground team who would activate and train quickly the local > > communities, could drive the HOT remote support, provide imagery > feedbacks > > (precise GPS coordinates, interpretation, etc.) or even imagery itself > taken > > by a drone (some tests are ongoing in Haiti) would make sense. IMHO HOT's > > kind of uniqueness is to be able to provide coordinated ground and remote > > response. > > Hi Severin, > > What you outline sounds great, however it requires an essential > element which remote support doesn't: $ > A remote support can be done using relatively little volunteer time to > set up & then it's up to the community how much they're able to engage > in the actual work - as HOT we cannot be responsible for that - we > just set up the infrastructure and make the call (being careful not to > abuse this so we don't get volunteer fatigue). > > Ground support would either require HOT to have it's own funds or else > to have the requesting Organisation sponsor it (even if the time was > all donated). > I agree that we should have a clause in about this and this can start > by saying 'As HOT has no funds of it's own, a ground support request > would require the requesting organisation to find funds for this' > What else do we need to define around this? > * Role descriptions (I know Kate has done this) > * Being sure we don't send people out uninsured? > * Being sure that people we send out are suitably qualified? > * Being sure that people we send out are suitably equipped? (which > might not require very much) > > Anything else? > > F > > > > Severin > > > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 8:00 AM, <hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> > >> Send HOT mailing list submissions to > >> hot@openstreetmap.org > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> hot-requ...@openstreetmap.org > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> hot-ow...@openstreetmap.org > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of HOT digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. 1st Activation Working Group meeting report (Schuyler Erle) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:22:42 +0530 > >> From: Schuyler Erle <schuy...@nocat.net> > >> To: hot@openstreetmap.org > >> Subject: [HOT] 1st Activation Working Group meeting report > >> Message-ID: <d9457753-91dc-408a-bca7-de66b48d9...@nocat.net> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >> > >> Hello Team, > >> > >> Today we had the first meeting of the HOT Activation Working Group on > the > >> IRC channel. The meeting lasted an hour. Pierre Beland, Fran Boon, > Andrew > >> Buck, Robert Banick, Harry Wood, and I participated. > >> > >> The stated objective of the working group is to develop a strategy and > >> tactics for optimally allocating HOT's resources in response to > humanitarian > >> crisis. We noted that humanitarian crises range quite widely in > severity and > >> in level of international response, and that HOT's response should be > >> commensurate with the degree to which our services will be used by > >> responders on the ground. > >> > >> The substance of the discussion today revolved around identifying HOT's > >> possible responses to crisis (including documenting data sources, > acquiring > >> imagery, setting up volunteer tasking services, and mobilizing > volunteers), > >> and working backwards to identify the triggers for those activities. > >> > >> We also discussed at length the distinction between "activation", and > >> simply responding to requests made by partner organizations. We agreed > (I > >> believe) that prompt and reliable response to partner inquiries should > be a > >> priority for HOT and should be taken up as a subject for discussion and > >> recommendation by the working group. > >> > >> I think that the working group members agreed to start documenting some > of > >> these ideas on the OSM wiki for further discussion. We also agreed after > >> talking for an hour to pick up the discussion again one week from > today, at > >> 14:00 UTC on Thu 22 Mar 2012. > >> > >> The IRC log for today's meeting is here: > >> > >> > >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OpenStreetMap_Team/Activation_Working_Group_22_Mar_2012 > >> > >> Hope to see those of you who are interested in the subject on #hot next > >> Thursday! I'll send out a reminder a couple days ahead of time. Cheers! > >> > >> SDE > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> HOT mailing list > >> HOT@openstreetmap.org > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >> > >> > >> End of HOT Digest, Vol 25, Issue 13 > >> *********************************** > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > HOT mailing list > > HOT@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > >
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