Pierre,

I would not want to see a message sent to every mapper for every square, only for those where I take an additional step of selecting the function to send a message.

Nick

. On 29/08/14 18:41, Pierre Béland wrote:
Sending a message for every task validated risk to irritate people. Instead, let's bring a social plus learning function in this CrowdSourcing Task Manager.

The best is to create a place of discussion (IRC like) directly related to the task Manager. The Validation comments could also be listed in this IRC. On the of the page, their could be a count of how many contributors currently selected a task.

The mappers, validators and coordinators would then have a place of discussion. This would play some social gathering function easily accessible plus help support for beginners.

Pierre

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*De :* Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com>
*À :* "HOT@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org>
*Envoyé le :* Vendredi 29 août 2014 13h03
*Objet :* Re: [HOT] Validating & TM2 - a send message button?

I wholeheartedly agree that an automated message that sends the comments
when a task is validated or invalidated would be great.

I really like feedback on the mapping I do.

Sort of related, I'd like to be able to subscribe to comments on a task
so I get an email every time someone comments on a task I have
subscribed to (probably because I have worked on it).

I am a new mapper so I have not seen a lot of tasks and do not know how
often comments on tasks are used, but the tasks I work on, I try to
comment as often and helpfully as I can.

Thank you for bringing up this idea.

Regards,
Blake Girardot

On 8/29/2014 12:47 PM, Nick Allen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was recently involved in teaching a large group of new mappers, and
> close to the end of the session I repeated to them how to find the
> squares they have mapped, click on them, and see the comments that the
> validator had left. At the end of the session I was approached by
> representatives of both the British Red Cross & Medecins Sans Frontier
> who each commented that it seemed like a long process, and couldn't it
> be automated so that a message is automatically sent to the mapper
> concerned. At the time, I replied that the many hundreds of very good
> mappers would not want a pestering email every time one of their
> hundreds of squares was validated.
>
> However, on further reflection I am having second thoughts, but don't
> know if;
>
> a/. there is something already in the pipeline, &
> b/. what other HOTties have in the way of ideas about this.
>
> I should explain that I see validation as both a quality control
> feature, and a training aid. Rather than invalidate, I will frequently
> validate a square if it only involves work I can complete in a few
> minutes, and I will leave a message in the square something like 'Click
> on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after:
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0
> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present
> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut.
> etc......'  In this case it would obviously be good if there was an
> option within the Tasking manager that allowed me to send this as a
> message to the mapper concerned rather than leave it to chance as to
> whether it is ever seen. If this feature was implemented I would suggest
> that it was a tick box that the validator would have to select with the
> text similar to 'Tick this box if you require your comments to be sent
> as part of a message to the mapper concerned'.
>
> The ticking of the box & then confirming with the validate button would
> cause a message (email or OSM messaging system) with a preformed text
> such as
> _________________________________________________________
>
> Title=HOT Validators feedback, square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
>
> Hi & thanks for mapping for the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team,
>
> A validator has recently validated square @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ which you
> marked as complete on @@date@@ & has asked that the following comments
> are passed on to you;
>
> /Click on this link to see screenshots showing the before & after:
> //https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8mtspy7pfu4o0ve/AADSV7Z-ZGG0kCWatPqUdnLYa?dl=0//
> I've joined the paths together & added the round huts that were present
> - screenshot shows one of them & they are tagged building=hut. etc....../
>
> Please take these comments in the positive way they were intended. The
> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team would like to see you map many more
> squares & the comments are only intended to keep the mapping standards high.
>
> Keep up the good work, and thanks again for mapping for HOT.
>
> This is an automated message.
> _________________________________________________________
>
> There was a genuine interest from members of BRC & MSF when asking me
> about this, and there was an offer to help with the coding as well.
> Personally something like this would save me a lot of time - I'm
> currently trying to validate the work of about 60 new mappers and
> anything which speeds up the process would really help.
>
> I'd welcome some discussion on this.
>
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