Hi Pierre is sleeping. I would normally ask him and activation. I will ask a contact via UN OCHA (offlist) and report back to activation
What I need is: 1. Confirmation that the changeset link includes the full dataset (the link below ) 2. Exact source link for the dataset. I will ask for a license update. Does this sound ok? Heather The file is On May 4, 2015 7:48 AM, "Prabhas Pokharel" <prabhas.pokha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > A very sad one, but nothing to do > > about it, unless the copyright holders let us upload the data to OSM > > without that non-commercial restriction. > > HOT, we must have contacts at UN OCHA, can we start a conversation to ask > if they are willing to do it? At the moment, we don't have the bandwidth > here at KLL these days to have this conversation. But as I see it, adding > POIs and named places onto the map is pretty important to focus on, in > parallel with all of the imagery-based work that we are doing. > > cheers, > Prabhas > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Rafael Avila Coya <ravilac...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi, Prabhas: >> >> I wonder if this data can be incorporated to a local or alternative >> database that can be of use in this situation. >> >> About the field papers, I don't see any problem to use this data as a >> guide of finding those health facilities and correctly geolocate them >> while surveying on the ground. >> >> Using the GNS and other place nodes already in the database, it might >> be possible to add some of this nodes to OSM. It might. But in any >> case, the license is a restriction. A very sad one, but nothing to do >> about it, unless the copyright holders let us upload the data to OSM >> without that non-commercial restriction. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rafael. >> >> On 04/05/15 00:26, Prabhas Pokharel wrote: >> > Thank you all; two main issues here: one that the dataset >> > geolocations are problematic, and two that the license was >> > incompatible. Apologies for incorrectly interpreting the license >> > here in Nepal. >> > >> > As megha said, the reason we attempted this was because the maps >> > that HOTOSM volunteers have helped create via tracing for us is >> > amazingly detailed (in terms of residential areas, roads, pre-quake >> > buildings), but hard to use because of the lack of POIs on the >> > ground. This was an attempt to alleviate the problem, but sounds >> > like we did misinterpret the license issue, and apologies for >> > that. >> > >> > We simply did not know about the problematic geolocations. However, >> > it is worth noting that this dataset is what a lot of organizations >> > have been using locally, given that it is the best available >> > dataset of health facility locations. >> > >> > Maybe the discussion we need to have soon is how we can improve >> > OSM-based tools (MapOSMatic, Fieldpapers, etc) to incorporate >> > datasets like this that are very useful in scenarios like what we >> > are going through, but are incompatible to put into OSM because of >> > the license. >> > >> > cheers, Prabhas >> > >> > >> > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Rafael Avila Coya >> > <ravilac...@gmail.com <mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi all: >> > >> > Megha (MeghaShrestha), the user that imported these data, has >> > answered me through the OSM messaging. She works with the KLL and >> > she tells me: "we are trying to create papers for the relief >> > workers. The problem being there are enough details like roads, >> > buildings, rivers but no POIs in many areas. It is difficult for >> > the relief workers to locate themselves on the map. Importing the >> > health facilities data was an attempt so that they can at least >> > find some POIs they can look for while locating themselves on the >> > map. The data I imported was from >> > https://data.hdx.rwlabs.org/dataset/nepal-health-facilities-cod. >> > The licence says we can use the data for non commercial purpose and >> > we need to credit the source. I hope these information are helpful >> > and you can help us out." >> > >> > With this info, I can see that the data is the one we were >> > discussing a few days ago, although that data set contained almost >> > 9,000 nodes, whereas the one of Megha had around 4,660. >> > >> > I recall the main problem: geolocation was very poor (most of nodes >> > in well out of any settlements). The other problem I see is the >> > license: it's for non-commercial use, and that makes it >> > incompatible with the OSM license. >> > >> > I really feel to give a no in such circumstances as these, and >> > that's why I ask for more input from other people with experience >> > on this, just in case there is any possibility of including the >> > data into OSM, and if not what other options we would have to make >> > good use of these data set, if any. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Rafael. >> > >> > On 03/05/15 18:14, Kretzer wrote: >> >> When looking at the Gorkha area in #1024 I noticed several nodes >> >> tagged as "Hospital" with a lot of information, quoting UNOCHA >> >> as source, but obviously in the wrong place, because there is >> >> nothing nearby. Like here: >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/28.00839/84.62397 Looks >> >> like a mass import that somehow went wrong ... shame, because >> >> hospitals are important! >> > >> > >> >> By the way, I am somewhat confused as to what is that called a >> >> "task" now? Is it a single tile (with a #) or is it the whole >> >> project? >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list >> >> HOT@openstreetmap.org <mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ HOT mailing list >> > HOT@openstreetmap.org <mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- Prabhas Pokharel http://prabhasp.com >> > twitter/skype/facebook/whatever: prabhasp >> >> - -- >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/ravilacoya >> >> - -------------------------------- >> >> Por favor, non me envíe documentos con extensións .doc, .docx, .xls, >> .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, aínda podendoo facer, non os abro. >> >> Atendendo á lexislación vixente, empregue formatos estándares e abertos. >> >> http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Tipos_de_ficheros >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ >> >> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVRvhtAAoJEB3niTly2pPQ6rYQAIACG4KEtph2xtxQvywpuEsJ >> dJujmsakn1Z2R3Cx6RhbB1cpTtwRB5R08WDeDx6veKh2NjyyoYmBk1gpxam0M8m+ >> nZcyixJxn59vMkVHCLh0kKyBBGNnDAPyQC+GBZtPsW04Vd7Zi8qc3rs98CnE3QHP >> gHpXfD/xtiMSi/g/Q6MhQ/DNYOQLLyZn9O2F3zg8UWHFTBFcUE544wnOkKmzmoKF >> ORyfN5Z3/d8E6GewV48otvl96S1xVikmLqu3AEDDGugU1llBOIpjG1gpF+yIEDtD >> Qq5+2iYGqTWoq/k/fVpuORvWaETHYtORzcTjGbul757gwLZYFwJtrgMsnkjf0KiO >> flnL3w6Vh5Ysc/imP5P6p76yg5rxRPhuoSdc0H5OJTExH09sZAwrvqOmjULeYTaX >> wfltzd8QJmD7WWLSsVnRVNoNXyPkA6EFB0x5zJklAJdELslAZIrV2X0YPB/bbqDT >> TJPob34LoicYoXZ0JPt5VbHPYUTZvHq7HJ8bZzaXOrWblPctb4fz7abUHUMEzl/5 >> W9KoNx0wJAU1ChJkERV8IxuMwnffwELnw/CUN5p57XJ6PY5vCnuTOPYoScrTwFN4 >> lfvwRSoMkDsbcmCPotaXJ+lt2egKAZoqWc9T78qEsOUsf9gB1pF2zfvHmTKBQ500 >> 69oFJ/ArvtOAV2hLDBCx >> =b93r >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > > > -- > Prabhas Pokharel > http://prabhasp.com > twitter/skype/facebook/whatever: prabhasp > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >
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