It hosed pretty much everything but the datasource names, but since it hosed the rest of the datasource settings those too had to be rebuilt. The end result was a complete waste of time to make the CAR and get it moved between data centers. That was on a single server installation, actually nothing fancy about the installation at all but it was going from a prior version of CF to the next version. I have used CARs without any issue when going from same version to same version.
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Mike G <[email protected]> wrote: > One thing to remember. The archive was originally designed to make an exact > dupe of the server so you could build a cluster. It is not really made to > perform an upgrade. So archive only the settings that are a PITA (like > dsn's) to do and manually set the rest > On Mar 11, 2011 7:18 PM, "Aaron Rouse" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I assume you are just referring to the CAR file method? I did this on the > > last upgrade and it got royally hosed, I basically ended up redoing > > everything. > > > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Mike G <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I prefer to archive current cf admin settings for each instance. > Uninstall. > >> Install. Import settings checking paths before deploy. I would be > surprised > >> if this does not work for X upgrade. I don't think an upgrade in pla e > >> would have a happy outcome. > >> On Mar 11, 2011 4:48 PM, "Aaron Rouse" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I'd be curious how well an upgrade ends up working from CF9 > multi-server > >> > installation to CF10. I am betting it will have some flukiness to it. > I > >> > really don't think our purchasing folks look at the details down to > >> > something like jboss v. jrun. Now the IT folks who just want any > reason > >> at > >> > all to kill CF, I am sure would use that as an arguing point against > it. > >> > > >> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Mike G <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> At least until CFX.01.... but honestly, jboss will likely be as > >> invisible > >> >> as jrun has been. When is the last time MOST of us have logged into > the > >> jrun > >> >> console? I think the problem most big companies will have will be in > the > >> >> procurement office. Jboss is open source. No one to pay for support > >> unless > >> >> adobe is going to offer jboss support to cfx customers. IT > procurement > >> >> loves to pay for maint support. > >> >> On Mar 11, 2011 2:19 PM, "Ajas Mohammed" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > Thanks Mark for sharing this. > >> >> > > >> >> > My first thought is we have CF 9 enterprise now and I guess if we > move > >> to > >> >> CF > >> >> > X, during installation, the installer will take over from JRUN and > >> >> configure > >> >> > Tomcat on our servers. I am certain lot of folks would say lets > wait > >> on > >> >> > this. :-) > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > <Ajas Mohammed /> > >> >> > http://ajashadi.blogspot.com > >> >> > We cannot become what we need to be, remaining what we are. > >> >> > No matter what, find a way. Because thats what winners do. > >> >> > You can't improve what you don't measure. > >> >> > Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high > >> intention, > >> >> > sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it > >> >> represents > >> >> > the wise choice of many alternatives. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Mark Davis <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> Not sure how many here have seen this? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2011/3/3/ColdFusion-X-Writeup > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Today at Scotch on the Rocks, Adam Lehman released some tidbits > about > >> >> the > >> >> >> upcoming new release of ColdFusion, ColdFusion X. I tweeted as > much > >> as > >> >> >> possible, but for those who don't use Twitter, and for those who > want > >> a > >> >> >> general one page summary they can comment on, here is what he said > >> and > >> >> my > >> >> >> opinion where applicable. Please note that anything announced > today > >> >> could > >> >> >> easily change between now and the real release. Also remember > these > >> >> notes > >> >> >> are based on my memory of what Adam said. Any mistakes are my > fault. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 1) Verity will be removed. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Not much to say about this. Adam suggested anyone using Verity now > >> >> should > >> >> >> begin looking into transitioning to Solr. Even if Verity wasn't > being > >> >> >> removed I think most people would recommend this anyway. Verity > *was* > >> a > >> >> >> good product. I don't think it got the credit it deserved. But > it's > >> >> ancient > >> >> >> now and Solr is much more capable. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 2) JRun is being removed in favor of Tomcat. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Not much to say about this one. I've used Tomcat before and it > seems > >> ok > >> >> - > >> >> >> but I've had issues with it and Apache. Hopefully that won't be a > >> >> problem. > >> >> >> Adam said - multiple times - that Adobe would be supporting Tomcat > so > >> >> that > >> >> >> if you had issues with ColdFusion and Tomcat you won't be left out > in > >> >> the > >> >> >> cold. I'm guessing this will be a slightly painful transition the > >> >> *first*time and then after that - not much of a big deal. Unofficial > >> reports > >> >> are > >> >> >> that ColdFusion runs much faster over Tomcat so any 'free' speed > >> boost > >> >> is a > >> >> >> good thing. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 3) Webservices updated to Axis 2. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Anyone who does much with web services in ColdFusion will know > that > >> it's > >> >> >> use of Axis 1 leads to issues with many service providers. > ColdFusion > >> X > >> >> will > >> >> >> upgrade Axis to 2.latest while keeping support for Axis 1 as well. > It > >> >> was > >> >> >> suggested that in ColdFusion 11 Axis 1 would go away completely. > This > >> >> update > >> >> >> will help enable Exchange 2010 support. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 4) Scheduled tasks updated. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Scheduled tasks will support chaining (run task B when A is done), > >> >> >> conditions (don't run if CPU is 80% busy), priority, and grouping > >> >> (consider > >> >> >> A, B, and C a group and do this to them as a whole). Also - > finally - > >> >> you > >> >> >> will be able to make them application specific. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 5) Jobs > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Basically you wrap a set of code in a cfjob tag and it runs > >> >> asynchronously. > >> >> >> It gets added to a queue you can introspect and modify. Basically > a > >> >> >> shorthand for cfthread but with more control over the queue stack. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 6) Java loader/proxies. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> No more need for JavaLoader - you can now load jars/classes via a > >> This > >> >> >> scope attribute in the Application scope. On the Java side, your > Java > >> >> code > >> >> >> can create an interface from a CFC. Both seem like really nice, > >> useful > >> >> >> updates. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 7) Closures. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ok, I'm on the fence on this one. I load closures in JavaScript. I > >> >> honestly > >> >> >> don't know how much I'd use them in a server side language. I'm > sure > >> >> I'll > >> >> >> regret saying that though and I bet I'll wonder how I ever lived > >> without > >> >> >> them. Then again, it could end up being the next cfinterface. It > was > >> >> hinted > >> >> >> that the implementation could be similar to what Mark blogged< > >> >> > http://blog.mxunit.org/2010/01/what-would-your-cfml-look-like-with.html > >> >about > >> >> a few months ago. > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 8) HTML5/jquery > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Nothing concrete was said here, but it was stressed that HTML5 and > >> >> jQuery > >> >> >> would be supported in big ways. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > "Houston > >> >> >> ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. > >> >> >> To unsubscribe, send email to > [email protected] > >> >> >> For more options, visit > http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en > >> >> > > >> >> > -- > >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > "Houston > >> >> ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. > >> >> > To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] > >> >> > For more options, visit > http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston > >> >> ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. > >> >> To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] > >> >> For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Aaron Rouse > >> > http://www.happyhacker.com/ > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston > >> ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. > >> > To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] > >> > For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston > >> ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. > >> To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] > >> For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Aaron Rouse > > http://www.happyhacker.com/ > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston > ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. > > To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] > > For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston > ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. > To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] > For more options, visit http://groups.google.com/group/houcfug?hl=en > -- Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "Houston ColdFusion Users' Group" discussion list. 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