Hey Ken Not knowing the topic makes it hard for me. Ken I love you man but your thoughts are liberal and free. In my birthplace this would be viewed as socialist or communist which are against God and country.
Having lived in Germany I understand there are views other than that of my place of birth. I suggest that unless it fails the newspaper test or it is something you would not want to tell your grandmother about it should be ok. Maybe do a double show day. Censorship in our group unless the above happens is not ok and puts you Ken and Dave in a tough spot. JWP On Tue, 22 Mar 2022, 16:27 Ken Fallon, <k...@fallon.ie> wrote: > Hi Rho`n, > > In this situation, we have no information to make an informed decision. > > Correct. > > We have to trust the Janitors claim that there is a technical reason to do > so. > > I reread the email thread and I cannot see anywhere that I suggested the > nature of the issue was technical or otherwise. I want to make it very > clear that I am deliberately not saying if it is a technical decision or a > content decision. > > The vote is basically a confirmation that we trust the janitor's judgement > on what the technical reason is. > > No it's allowing time for the host to get back to us. > > If we are taking a hands off approach to all issues to avoid any taint of > censorship, then we should not postpone any shows unless the host has > agreed. > > The whole point is that I cannot get in contact with the host. The last > communication from them said that they would host it somewhere else so > people can choose to listen if they like, and that they would mention it on > their next HPR show. My last communication to them was to ask if they will > be uploading a new version of the show. > > If *we* take the decision to allow the show to be released to the main > feed, and the host did not want it posted, then *they* have to live with > the consequences of our decision. That is not fair. > > Following the above argument, I don't consent to move the show. > > Please don't take this as a lack of trust in the Janitors. > > Incorrect. Do not trust them. > > As my first response puts much trust in them. I can see Ken's worry of > just moving things without a notice, and I think moving it with a post to > the mailing list that it is being moved for technical reasons would give: > one, a chance for someone to object, and two, provide an audit trail if an > issue of censorship does come up. > > I always cc the Admin mail list on these communications so there is an > audit trail. I would like more people to join the list but due to the > volume of mails people tend to unsubscribe after a time. "Anyone who has > shown a long term dedication to the project and is trusted by the > community, can become an admin". > <https://hackerpublicradio.org/about.php#governance> > > Say every other post by Rho`n suddenly gets postponed ;) I feel at this > point a vote doesn't provide much more protection from a censorship claim > than just a post to the mailing list that it is going to happen. > > Would Rho`n not send an email to the mail list and ask why their shows get > postponed ? As I did when HPR started to podfade. Would word not leak out > that there was a question of censorship on HPR ? Surely it would appear on > twitter, mastodon, irc, matrix, not to mention other Podcasts ? Like it did > when Klaatu mentioned on GWO that I asked him to replace a scary image on > his avatar. > > In this case you would hear from the host themselves that they tried to > post the show to HPR but decided to move it elsewhere. > > Regards, > > Ken. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Hpr mailing list > Hpr@hackerpublicradio.org > http://hackerpublicradio.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr_hackerpublicradio.org >
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