XYZ is in a universal language, that of experts, of mathematicians. It is the
language of XYZ that allows us to situate ourselves in a spatial 3d world.
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 18:47:18 -0700
From: goo...@levy.ch
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: GUI overhaul
On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:58:02 AM UTC-4, Jim Watters wrote:
On 2012-05-14 7:45 PM, Margaret Wong wrote:
Personally I think of the Assistant as 'beginner', and
anything to do with bracketing or XYZ mosaics as 'expert',
i.e. things that should be well hidden unless you go looking
for them. Everything else in the GUI is relevant to tweaking
stuff that happens behind the scenes of the Assistant.
As a relative beginner I do bracketing and mosaics and did those
nearly from day one. It took me ages to realise that an XYZ mosaic
wasn't a pano in strict terms.
As an Expert in shooting and stitching panoramas I would prefer to
see a simple GUI unless I want to use some of advanced technique.
This was why I suggested the name Simple instead of Beginner. The
idea is to show as few controls that are necessary to do the most
common simple stitching.
If a user wants to use an advanced shooting technique, like not keep
the camera rotated around the NPP then they will need the Advanced
mode to stitch those images together.
I agree with both Margaret and Jim. The current terminology reflects an inward
view that has nothing to do with the level of proficiency of the user --
neither in terms of computing nor in terms of photography. It draws an
arbitrary line in the sand. Why should XYZ be considered more advanced than
bracketing? only because it requires more parameters? was added later? Added
technological complexity?
The current UI simplification is great from an expert perspective and I fully
agree with Jim's view and support his terminology. The
beginner/advanced/expert terminology is misleading. A real beginner is
somebody who does not know the strict terms (to paraphrase Margaret) yet. For
a beginner it does not matter whether the stitch was achieved with
ypr/XYZ/morph-to-fit (BTW, good stuff, Bruno!) and whether visual uniformity
was achieved with bracketing/exposure correction/blending. Without detracting
from the current UI, which I find is a significant improvement, the terminology
is not very helpful for beginners.
What would help beginners are assistants; e.g. code that detects bracketed
shooting and asks the user if they want to switch those features of the UI on
(and even offers some guidance, maybe even automation); or code that detects
bad geometrical alignment which could be improved with XYZ and asks the user if
they want to activate that feature of the UI. The manual switch implemented
now is good for experts.
I repeat: the new GUI is good progress, but don't raise expectations it can't
meet by giving the impression that the simple UI is for beginners. Even if the
new GUI is an improvement for (almost) everybody, it adds more to experts than
to beginners.
Yuv
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