On 10/22/2014 02:49 AM, John Muccigrosso wrote:
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:47:07 AM UTC-4, GnomeNomad wrote:
Yes, there is a minimum change Hugin needs. I just tweak mask points by
dragging the point somewhere else far enough away, then click on it
again and drag it back to where I want it.
> Any help appreciated. I'm happy to file these as bugs, but not if
I just
> need to RTFM (whatever manual that is).
>
> Thanks.
I'm a Linux user (and OS/2 and Windows before that) so I'm very
comfortable with multibutton mice and right-clicking. I've used Macs,
too, and really wish Apple's big name CEO hadn't been so convinced that
people were stupid klutzes with no eye-hand coordination. ;)
I've encountered issues #3 and #6.
My usual workflow regarding masks is:
1. With image zoomed to fit the window, drag a basic mask, not
necessarily with a lot of lot of points.
2. Do a test stitch, see how much it needs to be tweaked.
3. Zoom to 100% and start adding and moving points as needed.
4. Repeat test stitches and tweaking until happy with it.
While doing that, sometimes Hugin seems to get confused about where the
new points are to be created, multiple points start getting selected in
strange locations when you click on a point, etc. Eventually I have to
delete the mask and start over. I think sometimes a mask just gets too
complex, Hugin loses track of which point is connected to which other
point, and things disintegrate from there. (Haven't formally set out to
test this, sorry.)
One thing I miss in all the displays like masking, adding control
points, etc: either a Photoshop-style drag tool for dragging a
zoomed in
image around in the viewing frame, or the GIMP style "Click on box in
lower right corner of image window, get a small version of the image
with a highlighted box showing the current window view, and drag the
highlighted box around to move the image." (Sorry for the wordiness, I
don't know what it's actually called.)
Steve Jobs' mouse-buton issues aside, I think I can do everything I'm
supposed to with the mouse. It just doesn't work as expected (or
desired, for the most part).
If touch-screen technology had been around back then, Mr Jobs' probably
wouldn't have included a mouse at all. ;)
It sounds to me like your workflow too is a big work-around for a buggy
masking process.
Curious what others think.
My workflow is more based on suppressed-perfectionism combined with a
belief that a mask in Hugin specified "include/exclude this specific
area". Apparently that's not how Hugin uses masks; apparently it's more
of suggestion to the *blender* to include/exclude the area if possible.
My bad, thinking in terms of graphics software layers.
With my typical photos, I go for many-pointed detailed masks because
less detailed masks sometimes include stuff I don't want included, like
an out-of-focus fringe around an included sharply-focused object, where
what I want included is the sharply-focused background of the object
drawn from a different frame. Yeah, I shoot handheld with lenses where
the options are either "set aperture for depth of field and shoot at 1
sec exposure" or "set aperture for little or no depth of field and shoot
at a reasonable exposure." Someday, new camera with faster new lenses ... :)
I guess if a mask is getting to be too complicated, using more than one
mask over the desired area might work?
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