When I've run into this issue in the past, the only solution I've found is 
to re-arrange the order of the images, or to eliminate images that have too 
many redundant control points (or completely overlap other images)

On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 4:15:01 AM UTC-6 mer...@archive.org wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> On 14/11/2023 21:00, Robert Mahar wrote:
> > Yeah, thats whats forcing me to stick with enblend and "jiggle the 
> > handle" till the black tiles go away.  This 240 tile project gives 1 - 4 
> > black areas every stitch if the images are in order ( right to left / 
> > top to bottom ).   I was going to dig into this, but I've always had 
> > issues building enblend from source owing to vigra, but I guess I need 
> > to figure that out to look under the hood.   FWIW I do see this issue 
> > when there is a regular overlap in the shooting pattern as there is in 
> > this project.  Unfortunately the tool I'm working on as a substitute for 
> > cpfind needs the order of the images to be preserved at the moment - 
> > once thats fixed somehow then I can permute the image order and sidestep 
> > this.
>
> I am not sure how helpful my suggestions here are going to be, but from 
> my experience over the past month (doing the same but for photos 
> microfiche), I can maybe suggest a few things for this:
>
> 1. For blending, give multiblend [1] at try if you haven't already. I've 
> had some problems with enblend producing some odd artifacts at time. I 
> am not confident enough to say it was really an enblend problem (and not 
> my project variables / control points at the time), but I appreciate the 
> speed and reproducibility of multiblend.
>
> 2. For control point finding, you said you use a custom one. I also 
> ended up writing my custom control pointer (ORB based) finder and I was 
> having problems with visible seams until I realized my control points 
> weren't actually fitted properly with RANSAC - I wasn't accounting for 
> rotation in between my images (I expected there to be none). I'm not 
> saying the problems you're having are because you use a custom control 
> point finder, but it might be worth ruling that out by just using cpfind 
> with --multirow
>
> 2b. Related to control point finding, I don't know what is the reason 
> for not using cpfind, but if the reason is performance, then this might 
> help. If you make a template and apply it using pto_template, you can 
> use cpfind --prealigned and have cpfind 'do the right thing', so it 
> won't do excessive matching that you might be trying to avoid. At least, 
> I've understood this should do the trick at being more efficient. 
> (Please let me know if you figure this out (it's probably not too hard, 
> but I didn't try yet)
>
> 3. Maybe just open the project file in Hugin and see if the control 
> points are really all correct/align for the individual images.
>
> Regards,
> Merlijn
>
> [1] https://horman.net/multiblend/
>
>
> > On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:21:02 AM UTC-5 bruno...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
> > 
> > The black shadows are an enblend bug, they don't appear if you use
> > the built-in Hugin blender (which is not as sophisticated as
> > enblend, but is more stable) - Bruno
> > 
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