Steve Well no caves around where I live so that one doesn't apply to my situation. BTW I believe they call that form of directed energy "Infrasonic" nowadays So I guess you weren't able to come up with anything either, networking wise, on whether that first report exists out here in internet land, that was released by Sandia???
> Albuquerque Operations reported to Mr. Long on June 29, 1995 that > Sandia National Laboratory had provided one responsive record for each > category. The first, the "Electromagnetic Test Report, Electromagnetic > Investigation of the Taos Hum, Test Report, dated September 27, 1994," > was released in its entirety. On Apr 18, 7:16 pm, Steve K <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, scanned for what I could use. Infrasound paper copied, will > look at when I am awake. I would like to have found something on the > interefernce of infrasound sources underwater to dolphins. Here's the > reason. In 2003-04 and recent expansion in 2008 a pipeline was > installed from Missippi to Tampa FL, in the GULF. In the last couple > years the internet HUMMERS have increased complaints from Tampa and > the FL east cost where this line goes. Considering how bad the HUM is > here, and what it did to our coyotes and my pet, it is very plausible > that the line running thru the gulf is radiating ILFN and screwing up > the dolphins for all these recent beachings along that coast. > > BTW, pipelines run/in most of the counties where the caves are for > bats in the the NE USA. The original caves where the bat die off > started 3-4 years ago have two large lines within 1.5 miles. And both > of them are now causing HUM in CT and MA and HUM measureable for at > least 25 miles away from them. . > > On Apr 17, 2:40 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Steve Would appreciate it. I would think that Sandia's > > "Electromagnetic Test Report" > > perhaps we might gleam some additional info from it But I am also > > still wondering if anyone took time to FOIA the report that first > > report that this thread indicates was released by Sandia in it's > > entirety > > cause you would of thought it would of come up at the top of a search > > engine but instead it did not. > > > The > > first, the "Electromagnetic Test Report, Electromagnetic > > Investigation of the > > Taos Hum, Test Report, dated September 27, 1994," was released in > > its entirety. > > > On Apr 12, 5:48 pm, Steve K <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'll try to use a bit of networking to get to this. > > > > On Apr 10, 8:46 pm, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > John Thanks for posting these reference links It would seem that > > > > the group doesn't have a file category on the home page so unsure if > > > > link exists > > > > Any link(s) to that one report "Electromagnetic Investigation of > > > > the Taos Hum" that was released by Sandia in it's entirety???? Didn't > > > > anyone acquire that report by an FOIA???? I tried a google search > > > > but nothing > > > > seemed to pop up of a link to a pdf of the report I even tried > > > > Sandia's Electromagnetic page but ended up with a server error when I > > > > tried to search on that site > > > > > Albuquerque Operations reported to Mr. Long on June 29, 1995 that > > > > Sandia National Laboratory had provided one responsive record for each > > > > category. The first, the "Electromagnetic Test Report, Electromagnetic > > > > Investigation of the Taos Hum, Test Report, dated September 27, 1994," > > > > was released in its entirety. > > > > > On Apr 7, 11:09 pm, John Dawes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Here is the U.S. Department of Energy web page referring to the FOI > > > > > application of Greg Longhttp://www.oha.doe.gov/cases/foia/vfa0060.htm > > > > > > I have also found a letter dated November 22 1995 written by Sherry > > > > > Robinson, Public Affairs Department University of New Mexico which > > > > > states that a report by Taos Hum investigators Joe Mullins and Jim > > > > > Kelly will be published in the Acoustical Society Newsletter, however, > > > > > I have been unable to find this > > > > > > On Apr 6, 12:05 pm, John Dawes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I am sorry there is little that I can add to this. Some time ago I > > > > > > asked some American friends if they could find the results of part > > > > > > two > > > > > > of the Taos Investigation, They contacted the University of New > > > > > > Mexico > > > > > > and were informed that no information on the final investigation was > > > > > > available, funding had been withdrawn and the investigation was now > > > > > > closed. > > > > > > I also contacted the UK government pointing out the similarity > > > > > > between > > > > > > Hum sufferers in the USA and the UK asking if it would be possible > > > > > > for > > > > > > an exchange of information, I received no answer to this. > > > > > > I believe something important was discovered during the > > > > > > investigation > > > > > > but it will be difficult to find out exactly what this was. > > > > > > > On Apr 6, 10:27 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Is their any place on the web we can find this document that is > > > > > > > copied and pasted here??? Did Greg Long give up after these > > > > > > > denial's back in 1995? Has anyone else attempted to get the > > > > > > > document > > > > > > > released using FOIA??? > > > > > > > > Not all FOIA's appeal's go to this length in explaining > > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > what the denial reasoning behind it is based on Thanks for > > > > > > > posting > > > > > > > this, but is their a web link > > > > > > > to this document ??? > > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 1:37 am, John Dawes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Greg Long, Case No. VFA-0060, August 15, 1995 > > > > > > > > > Case No. VFA-0060, 25 DOE ¶ 80,129 > > > > > > > > August 15, 1995 > > > > > > > > DECISION AND ORDER > > > > > > > > OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY > > > > > > > > Appeal > > > > > > > > Name of Petitioner:Greg Long > > > > > > > > Date of Filing:July 14, 1995 > > > > > > > > Case Number: VFA-0060 > > > > > > > > On July 14, 1995, Greg Long of Philomath, Oregon filed an > > > > > > > > Appeal > > > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > determination issued on June 29, 1995 by the Albuquerque > > > > > > > > Operations > > > > > > > > Office > > > > > > > > (Albuquerque Operations) of the Department of Energy (DOE). > > > > > > > > That > > > > > > > > determination > > > > > > > > denied in part Mr. Long's request for information submitted > > > > > > > > pursuant > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. § 552, as > > > > > > > > implemented by > > > > > > > > the DOE > > > > > > > > in 10 C.F.R. Part 1004. This Appeal, if granted, would > > > > > > > > require the > > > > > > > > DOE to > > > > > > > > release the withheld information. > > > > > > > > The FOIA requires that agency records which are held by > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > agencies, and > > > > > > > > which have not been made public in an authorized fashion by a > > > > > > > > covered branch > > > > > > > > of the federal government, generally be released to the > > > > > > > > public upon > > > > > > > > request. 5 > > > > > > > > U.S.C. § 552(a)(3). In addition to this requirement, the FOIA > > > > > > > > lists > > > > > > > > nine > > > > > > > > exemptions that set forth the types of information which may > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > withheld at > > > > > > > > the discretion of the agency. 5 U.S.C. § 5552(b)(1)-(b)(9). > > > > > > > > See also > > > > > > > > 10 C.F.R. > > > > > > > > § 1004. 10(b)(1)-(b)(9). The DOE regulations further provide > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > documents > > > > > > > > which may be exempt from mandatory disclosure will > > > > > > > > nonetheless be > > > > > > > > released to > > > > > > > > the public if the DOE determines that disclosure is not > > > > > > > > contrary to > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > law and is in the public interest. 10 C.F.R. § 1004.1. > > > > > > > > I. Background > > > > > > > > In a letter dated March 23, 1995, Mr. Long filed a FOIA > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > Albuquerque Operations seeking two related categories of > > > > > > > > information. The > > > > > > > > first category concerns the investigation of a mysterious and > > > > > > > > unexplained > > > > > > > > "hum" reported by many people in and around Taos, New Mexico. > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > particular, > > > > > > > > Mr. Long noted that Sandia National Laboratory had been > > > > > > > > involved in > > > > > > > > exploring > > > > > > > > this phenomenon starting in > > > > > > > > 1991. The second category asks for documents in which Sandia > > > > > > > > personnel > > > > > > > > explored similar "hums" elsewhere in New Mexico. > > > > > > > > Albuquerque Operations reported to Mr. Long on June 29, 1995 > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > Sandia > > > > > > > > National Laboratory had provided one responsive record for > > > > > > > > each > > > > > > > > category. The > > > > > > > > first, the "Electromagnetic Test Report, Electromagnetic > > > > > > > > Investigation of the > > > > > > > > Taos Hum, Test Report, dated September 27, 1994," was > > > > > > > > released in > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > entirety. The second document, a draft report on "other > > > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > sources of > > > > > > > > the Taos 'Hum.'" was withheld in its entirety. Albuquerque > > > > > > > > Operations > > > > > > > > explained that the report was never finalized because funding > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > the project > > > > > > > > had been terminated. Accordingly, Albuquerque Operations > > > > > > > > withheld > > > > > > > > the document > > > > > > > > under the deliberative process privilege of Exemption 5 of > > > > > > > > the FOIA > > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > grounds that the document contained preliminary opinions and > > > > > > > > findings which > > > > > > > > were never finalized. 5 U.S.C. § 552(b)(5); 10 C.F.R. § > > > > > > > > 1004.10(b) > > > > > > > > (5). > > > > > > > > Albuquerque Operations did provide Mr. Long with findings > > > > > > > > done by a > > > > > > > > team at > > > > > > > > the University of New Mexico who were working in conjunction > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > the Sandia > > > > > > > > National Laboratory team. Mr. Long has appealed the > > > > > > > > withholding of > > > > > > > > the draft > > > > > > > > report. > > > > > > > > II. Analysis > > > > > > > > Exemption 5 of the FOIA exempts from mandatory disclosure > > > > > > > > documents > > > > > > > > which are > > > > > > > > "[i]nter-agency or intra-agency memorandums or letters which > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > not be > > > > > > > > available by law to a party other than an agency in > > > > > > > > litigation with > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > agency." 5 U.S.C. § 552(b)(5); 10 C.F.R. § 1004.10(b)(5). The > > > > > > > > Supreme Court > > > > > > > > has held > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hum Sufferers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hum-sufferers?hl=en.
