The cave thing only has to do with bat decline issue, not necessarily the transport mechanism. The info on bat decline shows it is still only east of the Mississippi River, not yet up there in No CA. USDA And NYDEC have been notified of this possibility to explaining one of the unexplained disasters occuring in teh last few years.
Here's a thing to ponder on, remember the theory is that major changes in capacity to NG systems is causing these things to act up. For TAOS, if you google on Natural Gas Changes 1993, you'll see that EIA has annual figures of Receipt and delivery of gas to all states. Well, a significant change started occuring on receipt in 1992 with even a furhter change in 1993. Just the time that the residents in TAOS started to pick up on this. So how does it get there from Albequrque- it foolws a geologic anomolie called the Rio Grand Rift. Cause and Effect. The gas line proofing goes on with other case studies and timing to be very conclusive. n Apr 19, 11:08 pm, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > Steve Well no caves around where I live so that one doesn't apply to > my situation. BTW I believe they call that form of directed energy > "Infrasonic" nowadays > So I guess you weren't able to come up with anything either, > networking wise, > on whether that first report exists out here in internet land, that > was released by Sandia??? > > > Albuquerque Operations reported to Mr. Long on June 29, 1995 that > > Sandia National Laboratory had provided one responsive record for each > > category. The first, the "Electromagnetic Test Report, Electromagnetic > > Investigation of the Taos Hum, Test Report, dated September 27, 1994," > > was released in its entirety. > > On Apr 18, 7:16 pm, Steve K <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks, scanned for what I could use. Infrasound paper copied, will > > look at when I am awake. I would like to have found something on the > > interefernce of infrasound sources underwater to dolphins. Here's the > > reason. In 2003-04 and recent expansion in 2008 a pipeline was > > installed from Missippi to Tampa FL, in the GULF. In the last couple > > years the internet HUMMERS have increased complaints from Tampa and > > the FL east cost where this line goes. Considering how bad the HUM is > > here, and what it did to our coyotes and my pet, it is very plausible > > that the line running thru the gulf is radiating ILFN and screwing up > > the dolphins for all these recent beachings along that coast. > > > BTW, pipelines run/in most of the counties where the caves are for > > bats in the the NE USA. The original caves where the bat die off > > started 3-4 years ago have two large lines within 1.5 miles. And both > > of them are now causing HUM in CT and MA and HUM measureable for at > > least 25 miles away from them. . > > > On Apr 17, 2:40 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Steve Would appreciate it. I would think that Sandia's > > > "Electromagnetic Test Report" > > > perhaps we might gleam some additional info from it But I am also > > > still wondering if anyone took time to FOIA the report that first > > > report that this thread indicates was released by Sandia in it's > > > entirety > > > cause you would of thought it would of come up at the top of a search > > > engine but instead it did not. > > > > The > > > first, the "Electromagnetic Test Report, Electromagnetic > > > Investigation of the > > > Taos Hum, Test Report, dated September 27, 1994," was released in > > > its entirety. > > > > On Apr 12, 5:48 pm, Steve K <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'll try to use a bit of networking to get to this. > > > > > On Apr 10, 8:46 pm, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > John Thanks for posting these reference links It would seem that > > > > > the group doesn't have a file category on the home page so unsure if > > > > > link exists > > > > > Any link(s) to that one report "Electromagnetic Investigation of > > > > > the Taos Hum" that was released by Sandia in it's entirety???? Didn't > > > > > anyone acquire that report by an FOIA???? I tried a google search > > > > > but nothing > > > > > seemed to pop up of a link to a pdf of the report I even tried > > > > > Sandia's Electromagnetic page but ended up with a server error when I > > > > > tried to search on that site > > > > > > Albuquerque Operations reported to Mr. Long on June 29, 1995 that > > > > > Sandia National Laboratory had provided one responsive record for each > > > > > category. The first, the "Electromagnetic Test Report, Electromagnetic > > > > > Investigation of the Taos Hum, Test Report, dated September 27, 1994," > > > > > was released in its entirety. > > > > > > On Apr 7, 11:09 pm, John Dawes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Here is the U.S. Department of Energy web page referring to the FOI > > > > > > application of Greg > > > > > > Longhttp://www.oha.doe.gov/cases/foia/vfa0060.htm > > > > > > > I have also found a letter dated November 22 1995 written by Sherry > > > > > > Robinson, Public Affairs Department University of New Mexico which > > > > > > states that a report by Taos Hum investigators Joe Mullins and Jim > > > > > > Kelly will be published in the Acoustical Society Newsletter, > > > > > > however, > > > > > > I have been unable to find this > > > > > > > On Apr 6, 12:05 pm, John Dawes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am sorry there is little that I can add to this. Some time ago I > > > > > > > asked some American friends if they could find the results of > > > > > > > part two > > > > > > > of the Taos Investigation, They contacted the University of New > > > > > > > Mexico > > > > > > > and were informed that no information on the final investigation > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > available, funding had been withdrawn and the investigation was > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > closed. > > > > > > > I also contacted the UK government pointing out the similarity > > > > > > > between > > > > > > > Hum sufferers in the USA and the UK asking if it would be > > > > > > > possible for > > > > > > > an exchange of information, I received no answer to this. > > > > > > > I believe something important was discovered during the > > > > > > > investigation > > > > > > > but it will be difficult to find out exactly what this was. > > > > > > > > On Apr 6, 10:27 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is their any place on the web we can find this document that > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > copied and pasted here??? Did Greg Long give up after these > > > > > > > > denial's back in 1995? Has anyone else attempted to get the > > > > > > > > document > > > > > > > > released using FOIA??? > > > > > > > > > Not all FOIA's appeal's go to this length in explaining > > > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > what the denial reasoning behind it is based on Thanks for > > > > > > > > posting > > > > > > > > this, but is their a web link > > > > > > > > to this document ??? > > > > > > > > > On Apr 5, 1:37 am, John Dawes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Greg Long, Case No. VFA-0060, August 15, 1995 > > > > > > > > > > Case No. VFA-0060, 25 DOE ¶ 80,129 > > > > > > > > > August 15, 1995 > > > > > > > > > DECISION AND ORDER > > > > > > > > > OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY > > > > > > > > > Appeal > > > > > > > > > Name of Petitioner:Greg Long > > > > > > > > > Date of Filing:July 14, 1995 > > > > > > > > > Case Number: VFA-0060 > > > > > > > > > On July 14, 1995, Greg Long of Philomath, Oregon filed an > > > > > > > > > Appeal > > > > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > > > determination issued on June 29, 1995 by the Albuquerque > > > > > > > > > Operations > > > > > > > > > Office > > > > > > > > > (Albuquerque Operations) of the Department of Energy (DOE). > > > > > > > > > That > > > > > > > > > determination > > > > > > > > > denied in part Mr. Long's request for information submitted > > > > > > > > > pursuant > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. § 552, as > > > > > > > > > implemented by > > > > > > > > > the DOE > > > > > > > > > in 10 C.F.R. Part 1004. This Appeal, if granted, would > > > > > > > > > require the > > > > > > > > > DOE to > > > > > > > > > release the withheld information. > > > > > > > > > The FOIA requires that agency records which are held by > > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > agencies, and > > > > > > > > > which have not been made public in an authorized fashion by > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > covered branch > > > > > > > > > of the federal government, generally be released to the > > > > > > > > > public upon > > > > > > > > > request. 5 > > > > > > > > > U.S.C. § 552(a)(3). In addition to this requirement, the > > > > > > > > > FOIA lists > > > > > > > > > nine > > > > > > > > > exemptions that set forth the types of information which > > > > > > > > > may be > > > > > > > > > withheld at > > > > > > > > > the discretion of the agency. 5 U.S.C. § 5552(b)(1)-(b)(9). > > > > > > > > > See also > > > > > > > > > 10 C.F.R. > > > > > > > > > § 1004. 10(b)(1)-(b)(9). The DOE regulations further > > > > > > > > > provide that > > > > > > > > > documents > > > > > > > > > which may be exempt from mandatory disclosure will > > > > > > > > > nonetheless be > > > > > > > > > released to > > > > > > > > > the public if the DOE determines that disclosure is not > > > > > > > > > contrary to > > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > > law and is in the public interest. 10 C.F.R. § 1004.1. > > > > > > > > > I. Background > > > > > > > > > In a letter dated March 23, 1995, Mr. Long filed a FOIA > > > > > > > > > request > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > Albuquerque Operations seeking two related categories of > > > > > > > > > information. The > > > > > > > > > first category concerns the investigation of a mysterious > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > unexplained > > > > > > > > > "hum" reported by many people in and around Taos, New > > > > > > > > > Mexico. In > > > > > > > > > particular, > > > > > > > > > Mr. Long noted that Sandia National Laboratory had been > > > > > > > > > involved in > > > > > > > > > exploring > > > > > > > > > this phenomenon starting in > > > > > > > > > 1991. The second category asks for documents in which Sandia > > > > > > > > > personnel > > > > > > > > > explored similar "hums" elsewhere in New Mexico. > > > > > > > > > Albuquerque Operations reported to Mr. Long on June 29, > > > > > > > > > 1995 that > > > > > > > > > Sandia > > > > > > > > > National Laboratory had provided one responsive record for > > > > > > > > > each > > > > > > > > > category. The > > > > > > > > > first, the "Electromagnetic Test Report, Electromagnetic > > > > > > > > > Investigation of the > > > > > > > > > Taos Hum, Test Report, dated September 27, 1994," was > > > > > > > > > released in > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > entirety. The second document, a draft report on "other > > > > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > > sources of > > > > > > > > > the Taos 'Hum.'" was withheld in its entirety. Albuquerque > > > > > > > > > Operations > > > > > > > > > explained that the report was never finalized because > > > > > > > > > funding for > > > > > > > > > the project > > > > > > > > > had been terminated. Accordingly, Albuquerque Operations > > > > > > > > > withheld > > > > > > > > > the document > > > > > > > > > under the deliberative process privilege of Exemption 5 of > > > > > > > > > the FOIA > > > > > > > > > on the > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hum Sufferers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hum-sufferers?hl=en.
