Here you go: `bindsym $mod+Escape pkill i3-nagbar`.

Yes, nobody likes nagbar. But I don't think that there is any reason to change it. Nagbar is meant to be a teaching tool for new users. It appears when you have a syntax error in your config file or duplicate binding. It's there to warn you about the default key combination that exits the wm so you don't press it on accident for the first time. If your config file is free of errors, you should never see it.

One thing that I don't like about some desktop environments is that they are too talky. There is always something flashing in the corner or some popup notification that I don't care about on my screen. i3 is designed to be quiet. There is no other window manager "meta information" that needs to be displayed in nagbar other than config errors. This is good unix engineering.

On 09/20/2014 10:23 PM, grubernd wrote:
On 2014-09-21 01:06, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
The nagbar should _nag_ you, and obviously it accomplishes its
mission, since you are annoyed enough to write to this mailing list
:). Read: this is intentional.

ok. well.

let's put the - imo quite obvious - use of the nagbar for an exit dialog aside for a moment and consider the more usual case of editing something inside the i3 config and making an error. or lo and behold starting i3 with an error already in the config.

if i read that right, it is the intention to force the user to get away from the computer, walk through a convention center, ask everyone if she has a mouse to spare. or walk to the parking lot to the car and dig through the box of odds and ends to see if a mouse is there. or drive to the next electronic market and buy a mouse. or a graphic tablet. not everyone has an external thinkpad keyboard with integrated nipple.

all that just to be able to read the error message the fully keyboard enabled window manager is showing in a big red bar but wont let one see until a pointer-enabled HID is attached to the machine.

to phrase it in a very blunt way:

i consider this rather impolite to force a certain type of HID unto the user that is uneccessary in all other cases.

yes, there is a logfile etc, but..

and the above mentioned use case is not made up. i am using computers without a mouse. except for the case that i was so awesome that i did not make an error and did not have to ask a bunch of windows7 laptop users if they had a spare mouse. uh.

back to the exit use-case: i have a solution, no harm done. but maybe, just maybe it would be very cool and user-friendly to reconsider the intentional behaviour of the nagbar.

because, after all.. it is *the* builtin method into i3 to display meta-messages and dialogs inside the window manager. last time i checked cursor-keys are still available even on apple-keyboards. and shifting focus to the nagbar would be more inline with nagging the user. and more so without breaking usability.

just my 2ct.

cheers,
grubernd

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