I worked with Samson to refine a narrower proposal that has been presented to the SLOB by email. It is for the SLOB or Samson to decide how / when to share it with the wider community. It is for the SLOB to determine the how / when of discussing the proposal. I am confident that all details will be public before any decision is taken, I would characterize them as generally similar to previously funded translation work, specific terms of which have been shared previously.
cjl cjl On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Its been 2 weeks since this thread was last updated; has anything else > happened to move the proposal forward? Am I right that this will be decided > on at the next SLOB meeting? > > Samson, some more questions below: > > On 6 April 2016 at 08:00, samson goddy <samsongo...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the question Dave, Let me explain why the Yoruba came with >> the price $6,000. Originally, The Yoruba come with a price of 1500 USD. >> About the Internet plan in Nigeria is quite expensive. Like i told Tony, >> getting a portable internet connection plus the device cost about $300 a >> month. > > > Which provider/offer is this? :) > >> >> I also explained that getting anything related to tech is also expensive >> in Nigeria. For example getting an iphone6 plus might cost about $700-800 in >> USA or amazon, with the current exchange rate of 200 Nigerian naira to 1 >> dollar doesn't make everything in Nigeria cheaper. To get that same phone in >> Nigeria is about 250,000 naira here in Nigeria that about 1255.0225 US >> Dollar, you see the difference. India or USA is not Nigeria these country >> has a stable economy. You could do you research about Nigeria economy >> currently and see for yourself. > > > I understand - India is pretty similar to that :) > > Is the breakdown of the $6k something like this? > > $1,500 translation > $ 900 portable net @ $300/month x 3 months > $3,600 laptops > > If there are other items, it seems the laptop is surely a larger item in the > breakdown. So I wonder about the possibility of leasing/renting laptops. Eg > I found http://xtramindsconcept.com.ng/laptops who advertise they leased a > classroom of laptops to Google Nigeria. While that is in Lagos, I expect if > you can visit a dozen computer repair shops, you could probably charm one of > them to rent you some old stock for a good price. > > And there's also the 2nd hand market. Looking on olx.com I found a couple of > nearly-new laptops for around USD$400 in Port Harcourt: > > https://www.olx.com.ng/ad/1-month-used-hp-pavilion-dv7-corei7-with-radeon-graphics-beat-audio-ID15HCC1.html > > https://www.olx.com.ng/ad/7months-old-hp-pavillion-for-sale-ID15I6yI.html > (although you might also need that charm, "Carefully and softly used by a > girl and so I wish a girl will also buy it" it says ;) > > I also find the $300/month mobile data cost high. How many Gb of data will > you need? > > It seems that, new, its N15,000 ($USD75) for a hotspot wifi - > http://www.gloworld.com/ng/personal/devices/portable-wifi-routers/ - and > N5,000 (USD$25) for 5Gb of data - > http://www.gloworld.com/ng/personal/data/data-plans/ - which can be doubled > by working on a "campus" - > http://www.gloworld.com/ng/personal/data/glo-campus-data-booster/ - and such > hotspots can also be bought for around 1/3 of that price on olx.com > > Finally, how many translators would be involved for the $1,500, which is > spent over 12 weeks? :) > >> "Can some of these XO laptops be recovered/recycled. The owners are now in >> their late teens and probably wanting to use smartphones or standard >> laptops. They may be willing to sell them for a relatively small amount >> given that the local demand for XOs is probably negligible. These could be >> refurbished and deployed either to support a local hackerspace or to supply >> enough for one class at a local school."? yes they can. Those who don't want >> to use the xo any more normally give them to their young ones to use. > > > That's great! :) > >> >> "Finally, I think it would be cool to think about this funding as >> investment, rather than just straight funding. You are going go through the >> effort of finding people to translate, teaching them about Sugar, getting >> new hardware for Sugar related projects, etc etc! It is a lot :) So, if you >> do all that, I recommend thinking about how to use that built up energy and >> value in a way that can move towards self-funding this kind of effort. For >> example, offering workshops business model, because the risks can be >> minimized and it can have low overheads, and there are several markets for >> them - eg, offering sugar workshops to wealthier communities of parents who >> are passionate about these languages; or, partnering with existing IT >> training businesses."? Yes that is want i have in mind to do. > > > :D > >> >> Yes i would create Sugar Labs workshops, in Port Harcourt probably in >> other parts of Nigeria too. These workshop will bring more users to the >> sugar community, uses the xo's, Sugar on stick, sugarizer. It will be a >> whole new word for Nigerians. I already find partners for the workshop. And >> also i would really like if some one from Sugar Labs community will be >> present too e.g like walter for Musics Blocks and Turtle art JS. Also most >> of this questions you are answer is already been answered. I am spending a >> lot of $ in cyber cafe. So i can't really answer all your questions. like i >> said before SLOBs should invest in this proposal probably this April(i am >> not forcing the issue) so that things can be done quicker. and i can be able >> to start planing for workshops. > > > I am not a SLOB (nor even am I a Member, yet :) but I would like to see > that, even if the primary purpose of the funds is translation, that this > proposal can catalyse the nigeria deployments "graduates" into contributors > - hopefully long term. > > So I'd like to suggest that you add more of these ideas into the proposal > document, so that it can be turned into a motion at the next SLOB meeting. > > -- > Cheers > Dave _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
