To reply would require naming names, times, and places. I prefer not to get that personal. The issues I refer to have been discussed at length by others in the past.
Caryl Sent from my iPhone > On May 24, 2016, at 5:31 AM, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Hi All…. >> >> Busy time for us so I haven't had a chance to chime in on the motion for >> "dues." I personally do not care to contribute any unearmarked funds to >> SugarLabs. I am not at all pleased at the way funds have been carelessly >> disbursed to a select few in the past and feel no need to send my good money >> off to be used in a similar fashion. > > This is a serious accusation. (A) I am not aware of any carelessly disbursed > funds; (B) you recently suggested (in a comment on the Financial Manager > motion) that the earmarked funds should be spent on whatever we want, since > "times change", a notion I strongly object to. I would appreciate a > clarification. > > regards. > > -walter > >> >> Every year at tax time we enumerate our contributions in support of >> SugarLabs, and other sub-organizations, and I can assure you they are >> substantial They include such things as expenses to attend conferences, >> booth banners, printing costs for hand-outs etc. We reach hundreds of >> potential Sugar users and, occasionally, potential Sugar "contributors." >> >> Meanwhile, SugarLabs funds are freely distributed to others to cover their >> expenses to do similar things and other things that have far smaller >> "returns on investment." So, although I cannot vote on this (since I am not >> a member of SLOB), I do want to voice my opposition to this motion. >> >> I am not alone in this. >> >> I think if it passes you will lose many members who are strong supporters of >> Sugar and open source but feel, as I do, that SugarLabs is not the only way >> to do it. Put simply, they will "vote with their feet." >> >> I have no objection to contributing something "in kind" in lieu of dues… a >> new banner, some clever swag or the like to use in marketing Sugar and >> SugarLabs. But, dues… no thanks! >> >> Caryl >> >> From: d...@lab6.com >> Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 10:00:14 -0400 >> To: tony_ander...@usa.net >> CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org >> Subject: Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Re: [SLOBS] Motion: Solicit Membership Donations + >> Public Statements >> >> >> Hi! >> >> On 23 May 2016 at 09:44, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: >> I am not aware of any method to donate money to Sugar Labs. I understand we >> need to make the donations to SFC and somehow have the money arrive in our >> funds. >> >> That's right. >> >> The #1 service for member projects listed at >> http://sfconservancy.org/members/services/ is: >> >> Tax-Deductible, Earmarked Donations >> >> Member projects can receive earmarked donations through Conservancy. Since >> Conservancy is a 501(c)(3) charity incorporated in New York, donors can >> often deduct the donation on their USA taxes. Additionally, the donors can >> indicate that their donation should be used to advance a specific member >> project, and those funds are kept in a separate account for the member >> project by Conservancy. This structure prevents developers from having to >> commingle project funds with their own personal accounts or having to set up >> their own project specific account. >> >> Since Conservancy is a tax-exempt organization, there are some limits that >> the law places on what member projects can do with their assets, but those >> limits are the same as if the project was an independent non-profit entity. >> Usually, the project leadership instructs Conservancy's leadership on how >> the project's funds are spent. Conservancy spends these funds on the >> project's behalf on any expenses that constitute appropriate activity under >> Conservancy's 501(c)(3) not-for-profit mission. Some typical uses of >> earmarked donations by Conservancy's member projects are: >> >> funding travel expenses for project developers to attend relevant >> conferences. >> domain name fees, bandwidth costs, and computer equipment purchases. >> purchasing media for distribution of project software at conferences and >> events. >> paying key developers on a contractual basis to improve the project's >> software and its documentation. >> sponsoring and organizing conferences for the project. >> trademark registration and enforcement. >> FLOSS license enforcement and compliance activity. >> >> http://sfconservancy.org/donate/ says, >> >> Donate to Our Member Projects >> >> Finally, Conservancy also maintains directed donation programs for its >> member projects. Donation links for these directed donation programs are >> typically found on the individual websites of our members. >> >> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Donate says, >> >> Mail us a check >> Please make your check payable to: >> >> Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. >> and place this note in the memo field: >> >> Directed donation: Sugar Labs >> Checks should then be mailed to: >> >> Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc. >> 137 MONTAGUE ST STE 380 >> Brooklyn, NY 11201-3548 >> USA >> >> This needs to be made very clear on the web site. >> >> Sure :) Please draft something for what you think should be on the website >> donation page :) >> >> I am not referring to 'lying', I am referring to asking the question. If it >> is a donation, a person can donate what they feel comfortable with. >> >> I don't understand your point :) >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Dave >> >> _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education >> Project (not a laptop project!) 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