I totally agree with walter with the point of simplicity. It is almost impossible to get money from SFC and i believe if we want to agree on this motion. It should be included as responsibility.
Ignacio had same experience, i am having the same issue now. On Aug 10, 2017 1:53 PM, "Walter Bender" <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > I disagree. While the quality of the reporting left much to be desired, > the relative importance of this issue to our organization seems to be > pretty minor. That said, if there was some assurance that a FM could > somehow light a fire under the SFC regarding responsiveness to financial > inquiries, e.g., Samson's request for a travel advance to procure his visa, > then I would be all for it. But that seems to be a structural issue within > the SFC, not within Sugar Labs. > > -walter > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Samson Goddy <samsongo...@sugarlabs.org> > wrote: > >> Yeah i totally agree... >> >> +1 Laura >> >> >> regards >> >> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Laura Vargas <la...@somosazucar.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi SLOB's and members all, >>> >>> I think we should learn from experience and start compensating doing all >>> this work for Sugar Lab's Organization [keeping track of communications and >>> transactions with the Software Freedom Conservancy]. >>> >>> >>> Motion: *Sugar Labs Financial Manager will have a monthly compensation >>> of US$ TBD* in exchange for: >>> 1 complete financial report per quarter and it's publication on the >>> Sugar Labs Finance Wiki page maximum 30 calendar days after the end of the >>> period. The format to be used should be compatible with the >>> International Financial Reporting Standards* or it's equivalent in the >>> U.S.. >>> >>> *see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Financial_Report >>> ing_Standards >>> >>> >>> To approve the proposed motion simplifies the July, 2016 SLOB's >>> motion/decision >>> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions>, assigns a >>> monthly compensation for the Financial Manager and above all, *assures >>> community has timely access to reports*. >>> >>> >>> I hope another SLOB can second the motion in order to start voting. >>> Suggestions to define the value are also welcome from all, specially from >>> Adam :D >>> >>> Below I pasted some extracts from background emailing about the subject >>> in case anyone interested in reading. >>> >>> >>> Regards and blessings, >>> >>> Laura V >>> >>> >>> 2017-08-05 19:31 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com>: >>> >>>> Hi All... >>>> >>>> >>>> There was (and still seems to be) a lot of confusion regarding the >>>> topic of a treasurer's report. I think the main problem is that most of you >>>> are thinking of the SugarLabs "Books" (a big ledger will all the personal >>>> identifying information Adam was referring to) instead of a simple >>>> "Treasurers Report" which just includes the pertinent information without >>>> all the identifying details. The former, the "books," should be available >>>> to the SLOBs on request on a view only basis as mentioned elsewhere in this >>>> thread. The latter, the Treasurer's Report, should be available to all >>>> Sugar Labs members and other interested parties as appropriate. >>>> >>>> >>>> Maybe it is all the years I have spent in many types of organizations >>>> (4H, Girl Scouts, homeowner's organizations, teacher's orgs, Sierra Club >>>> groups, etc.) that make this seem very familiar, simple, and >>>> straightforward. Hopefully the information below can help make it work well >>>> for Sugar Labs as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> A quick Google search turns up this list of criteria for a simple >>>> monthly treasurer's report. It says it should include: >>>> >>>> 1. the name of the organization. >>>> 2. the period which the report covers. >>>> 3. the cash balance at the beginning of the period. >>>> 4. the income received during the period (with sources) >>>> 5. the expenses paid during the period (with what it was for and >>>> who was paid ... name only, no PII). >>>> 6. the cash balance at the end of the period. >>>> 7. the signature of the treasurer. >>>> >>>> Another easy to follow resource is this description of how to put such >>>> a report together: https://www.energizeinc.com/art/treasurers-report >>>> >>>> (Note: the sample they refer to in this is missing... you have to buy >>>> the book to see it!). >>>> >>>> >>>> Yesterday's financial report was very confusing and seeing Adam's email >>>> just seemed to make it worse. Maybe going forward we can simplify and we >>>> all will know what is happening. Oh, and by the way, there is no need to >>>> make the Income negative and the Expenses positive. This is for us, not the >>>> SFC. >>>> >>>> >>>> Caryl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* IAEP <iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org> on behalf of Tony >>>> Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 5, 2017 1:07:55 AM >>>> *To:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs >>>> *Subject:* [IAEP] Meeting August 4, 2017 >>>> >>>> >>>> I am amazed at the discussion on finance. >>>> >>>> The governing bylaw is at https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/ >>>> Oversight_Board/Decisions July 1, 2016. >>>> Oversight Board/Decisions - Sugar Labs >>>> <https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions> >>>> wiki.sugarlabs.org >>>> This page (largely complete) is intended to be a one-stop place for >>>> reviewing all of the Sugar Labs oversight board (SLOB) actions and >>>> decisions. >>>> >>>> Our Finance Manager is Adam Holt. He must authorize every petty cash >>>> transaction (<$200) and the board must approve all other transactions. >>>> >>>> I am sure that in a given quarter, the number of approved transactions >>>> is less than a dozen. >>>> >>>> The quarterly report is the starting balance, transactions reporting >>>> receipts, transactions reporting expenses, and an ending balance. >>>> >>>> I suspect all of this could be could be recorded on fewer than a dozen >>>> 80 column punched cards. (About 10-6 GB). >>>> >>>> Tony >>>> >>> >>> #WeCanDoBetter >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SLOBs mailing list >> sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs >> >> > > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > http://www.sugarlabs.org > <http://www.sugarlabs.org> >
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