What was the responsiveness of the SFC to that inquiry? On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 08:53:06AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > I disagree. While the quality of the reporting left much to be desired, the > relative importance of this issue to our organization seems to be pretty > minor. > That said, if there was some assurance that a FM could somehow light a fire > under the SFC regarding responsiveness to financial inquiries, e.g., Samson's > request for a travel advance to procure his visa, then I would be all for it. > But that seems to be a structural issue within the SFC, not within Sugar Labs. > > -walter > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Samson Goddy <[1]samsongo...@sugarlabs.org> > wrote: > > Yeah i totally agree... > > +1 Laura > > regards > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Laura Vargas <[2]la...@somosazucar.org> > wrote: > > > Hi SLOB's and members all, > > I think we should learn from experience and start compensating doing > all this work for Sugar Lab's Organization [keeping track of > communications and transactions with the Software Freedom > Conservancy]. > > > Motion: Sugar Labs Financial Manager will have a monthly compensation > of US$ TBD in exchange for: > 1 complete financial report per quarter and it's publication on the > Sugar Labs Finance Wiki page maximum 30 calendar days after the end of > the period. The format to be used should be compatible with the > International Financial Reporting Standards* or it's equivalent in the > U.S.. > > *see [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Financial_Report > ing_Standards > > To approve the proposed motion simplifies the [4]July, 2016 SLOB's > motion/decision, assigns a monthly compensation for the Financial > Manager and above all, assures community has timely access to reports. > > > I hope another SLOB can second the motion in order to start voting. > Suggestions to define the value are also welcome from all, specially > from Adam :D > > Below I pasted some extracts from background emailing about the > subject > in case anyone interested in reading. > > > Regards and blessings, > > Laura V > > > 2017-08-05 19:31 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho <[5]cbige...@hotmail.com>: > > > Hi All... > > There was (and still seems to be) a lot of confusion regarding the > topic of a treasurer's report. I think the main problem is that > most of you are thinking of the SugarLabs "Books" (a big ledger > will all the personal identifying information Adam was referring > to) instead of a simple "Treasurers Report" which just includes > the pertinent information without all the identifying details. The > former, the "books," should be available to the SLOBs on request > on > a view only basis as mentioned elsewhere in this thread. The > latter, the Treasurer's Report, should be available to all Sugar > Labs members and other interested parties as appropriate. > > Maybe it is all the years I have spent in many types of > organizations (4H, Girl Scouts, homeowner's organizations, > teacher's orgs, Sierra Club groups, etc.) that make this seem very > familiar, simple, and straightforward. Hopefully the information > below can help make it work well for Sugar Labs as well. > > A quick Google search turns up this list of criteria for a simple > monthly treasurer's report. It says it should include: > > 1. the name of the organization. > 2. the period which the report covers. > 3. the cash balance at the beginning of the period. > 4. the income received during the period (with sources) > 5. the expenses paid during the period (with what it was for and > who was paid ... name only, no PII). > 6. the cash balance at the end of the period. > 7. the signature of the treasurer. > Another easy to follow resource is this description of how to put > such a report together: [6] https://www.energizeinc.com/art/ > treasurers-report > > (Note: the sample they refer to in this is missing... you have to > buy the book to see it!). > > Yesterday's financial report was very confusing and seeing Adam's > email just seemed to make it worse. Maybe going forward we can > simplify and we all will know what is happening. Oh, and by the > way, there is no need to make the Income negative and the Expenses > positive. This is for us, not the SFC. > > Caryl > > > ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ > From: IAEP <[7]iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org> on behalf of Tony > Anderson <[8]tony_ander...@usa.net> > Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 1:07:55 AM > To: SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs > Subject: [IAEP] Meeting August 4, 2017 > > > I am amazed at the discussion on finance. > > The governing bylaw is at [9] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/ > Oversight_Board/Decisions July 1, 2016. > > [10]Oversight Board/Decisions - Sugar Labs > [11]wiki.sugarlabs.org > This page (largely complete) is intended to be a one-stop place > for > reviewing all of the Sugar Labs oversight board (SLOB) actions and > decisions. > > Our Finance Manager is Adam Holt. He must authorize every petty > cash transaction (<$200) and the board must approve all other > transactions. > > I am sure that in a given quarter, the number of approved > transactions is less than a dozen. > > The quarterly report is the starting balance, transactions > reporting receipts, transactions reporting expenses, and an ending > balance. > > I suspect all of this could be could be recorded on fewer than a > dozen 80 column punched cards. (About 10^-6 GB). > > Tony > > > #WeCanDoBetter > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > [12]IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > [13]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > _______________________________________________ > SLOBs mailing list > [14]sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org > [15]http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs > > -- > Walter Bender > Sugar Labs > [16]http://www.sugarlabs.org > [17] > > References: > > [1] mailto:samsongo...@sugarlabs.org > [2] mailto:la...@somosazucar.org > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Financial_Reporting_Standards > [4] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions > [5] mailto:cbige...@hotmail.com > [6] https://www.energizeinc.com/art/treasurers-report > [7] mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org > [8] mailto:tony_ander...@usa.net > [9] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions > [10] https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions > [11] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/ > [12] mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > [13] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > [14] mailto:sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org > [15] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs > [16] http://www.sugarlabs.org/ > [17] http://www.sugarlabs.org/
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