What can be expected if we *drop* the IFL when migrating to the new machine? Is there a discount of some sort? For reasons I shall not get in to (as I probably don't have all of the facts) we are planning on eliminating the IFL we currently have when we go to our next machine.
Thanks! Frank On 8/18/2009 at 8:48 PM, in message <46fe133d4aaa934296decc2288050f2b01e85...@gp2k0084v3.geico.corp.net>, "Knutson, Sam" <sknut...@geico.com> wrote: > Yes. The phrase you want to Google is "technology dividend". > > The specialty processors IFL, ICF, IIP, IFA all "carry" to the new > machine but without an upcharge get significantly faster since all of > those run at full speed regardless of weather you run with sub-capacity > general purpose engines or not. The GP engines carry the burden of the > pricing legacy that is pervasive on the platform but all the specialty > processors. > There is some fine print you need to do the right kind of upgrade you > cannot just acquire a new box without any connection to the old box and > float the engines over by osmosis:-) This is not hard. We are still > carrying one IFL I think we bought on a 9672 G6 now it is on a z10 EC. > I don't have any other server that gets part of it's cores refreshed for > free every few years. > > https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/advantages/charter/techdividends.html > > https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/hardware/z10bc/index.html > > > Best Regards, > > Sam Knutson, GEICO > System z Performance and Availability Management > mailto:sknut...@geico.com > (office) 301.986.3574 > (cell) 301.996.1318 > > "Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast..." > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Stephen Y Odo > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:43 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices > > Timothy Sipples wrote: >> As Mark Post alludes to, the author forgot lots of things, including > (for >> example) the traditional separation between IFL purchases and frame > upgrade >> purchases. That is, typically an IFL purchase much more closely > resembles a >> one-time charge. >> > > Can you elaborate on that point? And cite documentation for it? > > I mentioned that to my bosses in one of my many attempts to sell > Linux/IFL to my management. The way I understand it, if we purchase, > say, a z10 BC with an IFL, when it comes time to upgrade to the next > generation processor (a z11?) we don't need to shell out that $47K again > ... we pay for the new box, memory, channels, standard CPs, etc. but we > get the IFL enabled "free" on the new box. Is that a correct > interpretation? > > --Stephen > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > ==================== > This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this > email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please > destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html >>> The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
