I believe that once you buy the IFL you own it. If you drop the IFL when you
go to the new machine there is no discount.
Joel Wolpert
Performance and Capacity Planning consultant
WEBSITE: www.perfconsultant.com
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From: "Frank Swarbrick" <frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices
What can be expected if we *drop* the IFL when migrating to the new
machine? Is there a discount of some sort?
For reasons I shall not get in to (as I probably don't have all of the
facts) we are planning on eliminating the IFL we currently have when we go
to our next machine.
Thanks!
Frank
On 8/18/2009 at 8:48 PM, in message
<46fe133d4aaa934296decc2288050f2b01e85...@gp2k0084v3.geico.corp.net>,
"Knutson,
Sam" <sknut...@geico.com> wrote:
Yes. The phrase you want to Google is "technology dividend".
The specialty processors IFL, ICF, IIP, IFA all "carry" to the new
machine but without an upcharge get significantly faster since all of
those run at full speed regardless of weather you run with sub-capacity
general purpose engines or not. The GP engines carry the burden of the
pricing legacy that is pervasive on the platform but all the specialty
processors.
There is some fine print you need to do the right kind of upgrade you
cannot just acquire a new box without any connection to the old box and
float the engines over by osmosis:-) This is not hard. We are still
carrying one IFL I think we bought on a 9672 G6 now it is on a z10 EC.
I don't have any other server that gets part of it's cores refreshed for
free every few years.
https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/advantages/charter/techdividends.html
https://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/hardware/z10bc/index.html
Best Regards,
Sam Knutson, GEICO
System z Performance and Availability Management
mailto:sknut...@geico.com
(office) 301.986.3574
(cell) 301.996.1318
"Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast..."
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Stephen Y Odo
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: IBM halves mainframe Linux engine prices
Timothy Sipples wrote:
As Mark Post alludes to, the author forgot lots of things, including
(for
example) the traditional separation between IFL purchases and frame
upgrade
purchases. That is, typically an IFL purchase much more closely
resembles a
one-time charge.
Can you elaborate on that point? And cite documentation for it?
I mentioned that to my bosses in one of my many attempts to sell
Linux/IFL to my management. The way I understand it, if we purchase,
say, a z10 BC with an IFL, when it comes time to upgrade to the next
generation processor (a z11?) we don't need to shell out that $47K again
... we pay for the new box, memory, channels, standard CPs, etc. but we
get the IFL enabled "free" on the new box. Is that a correct
interpretation?
--Stephen
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