problem...until companies...vendors like SAS / CA  / Sterling and the like 
pull prices down...JUST BECAUSE IT IS M/F there still is a 
problem..Companies like MacKinney get it ... too bad there are not enough 
of them out there..



From:
Bill Fairchild <[email protected]>
To:
[email protected]
Date:
11/12/2009 03:47 PM
Subject:
Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground
Sent by:
IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



Or become a contractor to IBM yourself.  Then you can try to make a profit 
by offering your subcontractors considerably more than Veritas does. 

If IBM is trying to drive down the price of Sysprogs and they succeed, 
then they will have reduced the total cost of ownership of a mainframe 
system to a mainframe customer, and perhaps they will be able to sell more 
mainframe systems that way.

Bill Fairchild

Software Developer 
Rocket Software
275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA
Tel: +1.617.614.4503 * Mobile: +1.508.341.1715
Email: [email protected] 
Web: www.rocketsoftware.com

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground

So if I remember what contracting companies do 
IBM charges one rate. Then a company like Veritas Solutions is contracted 
by IBM and then they have to pay even less because they need to make a 
profit.  Which is probably why the hourly rate is SOOOOOOO   LOOOOW

So the best action is to deal directly with IBM and not its 
subcontractors.

Lizette

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