We have a z9BC-T02 (soon to be downgraded to a Q02). A zAAP will definately out 
perform a CP in our circumstance. Well, for Java work, that is. If we had any. 
So, it is true that a unstricted CP and a zAAP run at the same speed. 
Therefore, in the situation where software costs are not relevant, an 
unretricted CP is better, more peformant, than a zAAP. Even for zAAP eligable 
work! Now, how many people here think that software costs are not relevant? 
Don't be shy! So, even if you have unrestricted CPs, a zAAP may be more "cost 
effective" than a CP. For zAAP eligible work, that is. zAAPs cost less to 
acquire than CPs. zAAPS don't add to your software bill. So, if while it may 
well be true that a CP is "better" when looked at in a "pure performance" 
scenario, for TCO purposes a zAAP may be a far better choice.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bruno Sugliani
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:55 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: IBM countersues Neon over zPrime accelerator
> 
> On Thu, 4 Feb 2010 08:35:55 -0600, Mark Zelden 
> <mark.zel...@zurichna.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >Frankly, I am a little surprised about the way this thread has gone.
> >zAAPs and zIIPs weren't invented to improve performance.  They were
> >created for marketing and software pricing since that is a 
> major issue with
> >our platform.   If all the engines and software were 
> cheaper, the platform
> >would be better off without them.  (and yes, I'm still 
> leaving out the caveat
> >of full spead zAAPs/zIIPs on a knee-capped box - again, that 
> is a marketing
> >point to help sell them, to decrease software costs and 
> encourage "new
> >workloads").
> 
> Yes I am a bit surprised as well about the way this thread is going. 
> Perhaps the marketing talks about the benefits of zAAPs and 
> zIIPs has worked
> better than we thought.
> Obviously people started believing it was to improve performance !
> I am puzzled :)
> Bruno Sugliani 
> zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr
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