My first job out of college was as a systems programmer.  When I was 
hired, the group consisted of 8 sysprogs, and of them at least 2 had been 
hired straight out college as sysprogs.  Also, during my tenure, we hired 
2 other college grads as sysprogs.  4 of the five of us all went to the 
same college, which did teach a lot of systems level information.

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Wayne Driscoll
OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development
wdrisco(AT)us.ibm.com
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From:
Howard Brazee <howard.bra...@cusys.edu>
To:
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Date:
04/12/2010 02:23 PM
Subject:
Re: How many mainframes are there?
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On 12 Apr 2010 07:40:55 -0700, wgshi...@benekeith.com (Greg Shirey)
wrote:

>An instructor from Verhoef made the observation in a class I attended
>that he had never met a mainframe systems programmer  whose first job
>was as a systems programmer, and his students invariably would say that
>they were invited to become a systems programmer.  So, he always said
>"Welcome to the club" when someone in his class would admit that they'd
>just begun as a systems programmer.

I remember when all of the applications programmers started off
elsewhere.    Then schools started offering programming courses, and
people without experience applied based upon their education.

How common has it been to get a college education in systems
programming?

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