On 22 Apr 2010 03:48:05 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:35:00 -0500, Kelman, Tom
><thomas.kel...@commercebank.com> wrote:
>
>>John,
>>
>>That WikiPedia article also states that DMSII was created by Burroughs
>>(later UniSys) as a database to run on its processors.  Does that mean
>>they are still running UniSys machines.  If so they have problems over
>>and above COBOL "not being taught".  It sounds like a typical government
>>non-upgrade environment.  Now they are caught in the dark ages and
>>instead of upgrading to modern DB2 and COBOL on proper processors they
>>are probably going to "throw out the baby with the bath water" and get
>>OMG - WINDOWS.
>>
>>Tom Kelman
>
>Tom: 
>
>The report was misleading (confusing) in many ways in that it talked about
>all of the government. The specific department involved here regarding DMSII
>(Human Resources Development Canada, HRDC) is running an older UNISYS
>environment.
>
>Much of the Canadian Government IT environment is on very current technology
>(and yes that includes lots of IBM System z). 
>
>However, the canard about COBOL is one that always bothers me. A year or two
>ago the Toronto Star had an article about COBOL being a "deal language".
>COBOL could paraphrase Mark Twain, "The reports of my death have been
>greatly exaggerated.". IMHO, there is probably more business server
>application code written in COBOL than any other language still, and I see
>no reason for that to change.

With the many conversions off the mainframe and with the growth of
packages such as SAP, I seriously wonder whether this is still true. A
large amount of code has been replaced.  
>
>Jim
>

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