On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:56:39 +0200, R.S. <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> wrote:
>Binyamin Dissen pisze: >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:59:19 -0300 Clark Morris <cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca> >> wrote: >> >> :>While I am semi-retired (offer me a good contract and ...), I am >> :>appalled that a function is installed that requires a FORCE for it to >> :>shutdown. If I were a systems programmer, I would APAR that at a >> :>severity 2 and escalate if not accepted. FORCE or even CANCEL should >> :>not be a part of normal shutdown practice. >> >> That has been part of the normal shutdown since at least early Z, and quite >> possibly in OS390 (do not have enough neurons to save all this info) > >FORCE - I have never ever met such "normal shutdown" >CANCEL - yes, it happens. Example: APPC. > >Is it normal, should it be tolerated - in fact I don't care as long as >it is written in manual as proper method. > >BTW: in THIS case (AXR04) there is no need to use FORCE, CANCEL is >enough. FORCE is for AXR, but it does not prevent JES2 shutdown. > > I guess you may have had to read between the lines slightly, but Ed Jaffe already told you that FORCE AXR,ARM was the command. It will bring down any / all of the AXR related address spaces. BTW, "FORCE ARM" is no more than a cancel except that it goes through ARM processing. It doesn't do a memterm like a regular FORCE. Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:mzel...@flash.net Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
