I agree with Ted and others. Tell me what it needs. For me, I'll either put it in COMMNDxx or the CA-OPS start-up script. Since you say it can handle waiting for TCPIP on it's own, what's the diff? If I want it during limited function "system checkout time" I'd use COMMNDxx. Otherwise the automation.
We don't do $VS anything. Other shops may. We would decline your suggestion if it was $VS. If you were CA, I might tag it off of CAS9. Still, my choice. > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Charles Mills > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:37 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Really dumb IPL question > > Ted, I've got a lot of successful third-party mainframe product > management > experience. > > I'm sure every "shop" knows what they are doing but salespeople, sales > support people, and tech support people don't talk to "shops," they > talk to > individuals at shops, and not every individual is comfortable with > "just do > it." This is not some weird notion of mine alone. Read Tony Harminc's > post > on the subject. > > Yes, no matter what we say in a manual, a shop will do it the way they > want > to do it. I'm going to say what the prerequisites are and that they are > free > to do it any way that works for them. Why are you so opposed to my > mentioning some recommended approaches? > > Charles > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf > Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 7:12 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Really dumb IPL question > > >So humor me, I'm not much of an operations person as you can tell, > where > would that be? > >One alternative is "your console automation system" but what are the > recommended vanilla IBM alternatives? > > >- A $VS command in the JESx initialization data set. > >- Where else? > > None of those! > > Just tell us the requirements and prerequisites. > Each shop has different ways to deal with them. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
