We had this same problem with CA-RUNTCP. The FTP in that originally did the FTP 
in the RUNTCP address space itself. We had jobs which would create a DSN, try 
to FTP it, then use it in a later step. The FTP failed because all it did was 
tell RUNTCP to FTP the dataset, which it could not allocate. We had to break 
the job in two. Create & FTP in one job, then continue processing in a second, 
dependent, job. We did this with CA-7. RUNTCP was later enhanced to have an "in 
line" ftp process (FTP3 as I recall). But we had already decided to convert to 
IBM's stack.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of NIGEL WOLFENDALE
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:44 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Allocation Conflict with Job
> 
> Now I understand what is going on !
> 
> The allocation messages IKJ56225I were against the connect 
> direct address space 
> (I has assumed they were against the batch job - but didn't 
> look carefully 
> enough) The DMBATCH program send the details of what you want 
> transferred to the 
> Connect :Direct address space, which actually does the 
> transfers (and therefore 
> needs to allocate the dataset) - so as is said below the C:D 
> address space can't 
> get hold of the dataset as the ENQ has not been released. I 
> hope the solution is 
> twofold - put a delay value into the c:d statements - this 
> says don't complete 
> the step in the batch job until the transfer is complete - or 
> until the delay 
> value has been exceeded. Then as the next step is APL (why 
> I've no idea !) - 
> running under TSO, I can precede it with a TSO Alloc 
> statement - which will be 
> hidden from the JCL - so should allow the C:D step to run unhindered. 
> 
> 
>  Nigel Wolfendale
> nigel.wolfend...@btinternet.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net>
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 August, 2011 12:10:25
> Subject: Re: Allocation Conflict with Job
> 
> In <0598249933121044.wa.nigel.wolfendalebtinternet....@bama.ua.edu>,
> on 08/08/2011
>    at 09:17 AM, Nigel Wolfendale <nigel.wolfend...@btinternet.com>
> said:
> 
> >When we run the job we get message IKJ56225I - dataset is allocated
> >to another job or user - try again later (or words to that effect),
> >now the job won't run.
> 
> Does CD use Unix System Services? Could the IKJ56225I message be
> coming from a process running in another address space? Does CD hand
> off requests to a server in another address space?
> 
> >This behaviour seems intuitively wrong - but is it normal - am I
> >missing something ?
> 
> It is normal for the Initiator to retain the ENQ until the last step
> allocating the dataset has completed. The message is normal only if
> the allocation is taking place in another address space, hence the
> questions above.
> 
> -- 
>      Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
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