"Thomas Berg" <thomas.b...@swedbank.se> wrote in message 
news:<a90e503c23f97441b05ee302853b0e6263ff850...@fspas01ev010.fspa.myntet.se>...
> > -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> > Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] För
> > Lizette Koehler
> > Skickat: den 13 februari 2012 12:43
> > Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Ämne: Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)
> > 
> > >
> > > I can't understand why we STILL need to specify SPACE= (etc) for an
> > allocation of a
> > > dataset.
> > > You normally don't do that in other OS (platforms), You always (both
> > principally and in
> > > practice) want to allocate as much as is needed during execution
> > >
> > > If for backward compatibility it can't be done automatically, why not
> > introduce a new
> > > keyword like e g "SPACE=ANY" ?
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > Thomas,
> > 
> > IIRC - if you force a DATACLAS on a dataset in SMS, you can specify the
> > Space requirements there.  Then the JCL does not require Space.  Have you
> > looked at that?  However, then that makes your storage admin responsible
> > for
> > ensuring the space is enough.  And if needed alter the dataclass if there
> > are space issues.  And it would require all such datasets be SMS managed.
> > 
> > 
> > Lizette
> 
> Hi Lizette,
> 
> In practice it's not a viable alternative. Besides the need (if doing it that 
> way) to communicate frequently with the "space gang", it's to many variants 
> of datasetnames and to many different needs for space depending on time, date 
> and subgrouping within applications. 
> 
> 
>  
> Regards, 
> Thomas Berg 

Now I don't understand: if you have so many different space needs, how do you 
assume 'SPACE=ANY' to solve this?

Kees.
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