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> Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
> Skickat: den 13 februari 2012 14:22
> Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Ämne: Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)
> 
> "Thomas Berg" <thomas.b...@swedbank.se> wrote in message
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> > > Lizette Koehler
> > > Skickat: den 13 februari 2012 12:43
> > > Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > > Ämne: Re: Archaic allocation in JCL (Was: Physical record size query)
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I can't understand why we STILL need to specify SPACE= (etc) for an
> > > allocation of a
> > > > dataset.
> > > > You normally don't do that in other OS (platforms), You always (both
> > > principally and in
> > > > practice) want to allocate as much as is needed during execution
> > > >
> > > > If for backward compatibility it can't be done automatically, why
> not
> > > introduce a new
> > > > keyword like e g "SPACE=ANY" ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thomas,
> > >
> > > IIRC - if you force a DATACLAS on a dataset in SMS, you can specify
> the
> > > Space requirements there.  Then the JCL does not require Space.  Have
> you
> > > looked at that?  However, then that makes your storage admin
> responsible
> > > for
> > > ensuring the space is enough.  And if needed alter the dataclass if
> there
> > > are space issues.  And it would require all such datasets be SMS
> managed.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lizette
> >
> > Hi Lizette,
> >
> > In practice it's not a viable alternative. Besides the need (if doing it
> that way) to communicate frequently with the "space gang", it's to many
> variants of datasetnames and to many different needs for space depending
> on time, date and subgrouping within applications.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Thomas Berg
> 
> Now I don't understand: if you have so many different space needs, how do
> you assume 'SPACE=ANY' to solve this?

With SPACE=ANY, the needed space is allocated and extended during the 
execution. 
So You don't do any "preallocation" of a specified amount of space. 


 
Regards, 
Thomas Berg 
_________________________________________ 
Thomas Berg   Specialist   A M   SWEDBANK 

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