Cut the guy some slack, people... Obviously, he has been thrown into a new
job without any kind of training on that job. He is "swimming"...

>
>>My fault, I'm referring to our Z/OS consoles, we have four of them,
>>each identified by a Tel#. Their different TSO's as I'm told. Is that
>>like having 4 different "systems" running?

It is one or the other. Either you our looking at the console, or not. If
it is a console, then the messages you see are an extract of the (MVS)
system log. Depending on how the particular console is configured, some
messages will be displayed, others will not. From what I read in the
previous posts, it seems to me that you are indeed looking at a console and
that the routing codes (RTFM, there is a _lot_ to learn...) are set such
that tape-related messages (amongst others) are displayed. If you are
a "tape-ape" (no offense), this seams appropriate.

You say you have 4 consoles. This does not tell us anything about the system
(s) these consoles are connected to. It may be that all 4 are connected to
only one system, that some are connected to one system and others to
another system, or any combination. There is no way of telling from what
you posted. Mind you, when I say system, do not think separate physical
boxes... Configuration of LPARs and MVS images running in them varies a
_lot_ between installations. No way of telling from what you posted. If
there is zVM in the installation, things are even more flexible (and
confusing...) You really need to be told what systems you are looking at
through those different terminals by someone who knows. I am affraid there
is no other way of knowing...

>
>No, TSO doesn't run on consoles and it's like having 4 different jobs
>running, possibly all on the same system. If it's TSO then the

If indeed you would look at TSO (which I don't think you do), then this
means that your terminal is connected to a particalur address space where
the Time Sharing Option is running. TSO is kind of a command processor and
nowadays usually comes configured such that it automatically fires up ISPF
when you connect to it. ISPF is what makes TSO easy (well, compared to line-
mode TSO, anyway...) ISPF dialogs come in a very wide array. It is not
impossible that you have a dialog running which is presenting you the
relevant messages and enables you to enter the commands. But again, I don't
think this is what you have.

SDSF is a product that enables console access from a TSO session (amongst
many other things). Once more: RTFM (yes, I know, it will take you half a
year to read all the stuff...).

>>And that's probably why I'm supposed to check
>>for outstanding messages on each console.
This seems to indicate that you do have several MVS images.


>>If Tel1 prompts me for a tape, what message would I
>>get if a D U,,, that drive from another console?

Depends on what console is connected to what system and how these systems
are configured and what (additional) system software is running. It is
possible to share units amongst different systems. And it is possible that
units are swithched (automatically or manually) from one system to the
other. No way from telling what will happen in your particular installation
without knowing more about the configuration of that installation.

>>(come to think of it, all the messages are tape
>>related, aren't there many other things going on in the mainframe?)

This makes me think you are indeed looking at a console that is configured
for tape-related operations. Really, your system programmer should tell you.


>is going on. I suspect that you're running a TSO application specific
>to tapes. Again, you haven't told us what it is.
IMHO the OP is looking at a console, not a TSO application. It is true that
he did not tell us, but it is my understanding that he does not know for
complete and utter lack of training...

Cheers,

Jantje.

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