On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:41:44 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:03:24 -0400, Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) wrote: >> >>And then the idea that ISVs don't know SMP/E is a bit out there -- well >>I'd hope that ISVs know SMP/E. > >I'd hope so too, but some vendors consistently do it wrong. >Some examples: >Providing PTFs without proper PREs >Providing PTFs that don't SUP when they should >Routinely asking a customer to use BYPASS ID >PTF A has a PRE on FMID B, but FMID B has a SUP on PTF A >Failure to provide UCLIN to create DDDEFs
Hey, I recognize that 2-letter-name vendor by those clues - probably nearly all of us can recognize it. >>So there are lots of things that vendors have to take into >>consideration, and the biggest one today are the Sr. Systems Programmers >>who don't know what a USERMOD is or a JES exit. >> >Now there's a statement that I think is "a bit out there." I took exception to Steve's statement, too, at first. Then I considered a site or two near me where they are absolutely allergic to exits (and nearly allergic to USERMODs) and I have to say that I understand Steve's position a little better. 'Course, most of that allergy comes from a lack of knowledge and trust in the Sr. SysProg's assembler (and general) programming skills. There are too many z/OS "Systems Administrators" in the field today. Now it looks like IBM plans to build 20,000 more in a few years?! Just what the customers do NOT need! (Hey, IBM, how about building 20,000 enlightened senior managers and executives for customers instead? THAT would be a worthwhile goal!) -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
