On Tuesday, 08/29/2006 at 08:07 GMT, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you define the OS as just BCP, then you are going to have a lot of things > that you cannot do. > So, if you expand the definition to BCP, JES2, all the utilities and tools > needed to keep it runnning, you can expand it to VTAM, TCP/IP, TSO, ISPF, SMP, > and keep going. > > There are (many) valid cases for including/excluding certain sub-systems. > But, I would go with all the ('free') stuff that is bundled inside z/OS, and > covered by that single licence, as a start.
Defining an operating system according to its usefulness is a waste of time. (Depending on your definition of "operating system", "usefulness" and "waste", of course!) Academically, I cannot call z/VM an operating system, either. CP, yes. CMS, yes. GCS, yes. Each with different levels of sophistication and capability. But z/VM, like z/OS, is the name of a *product* that IBM sells. From a *packaging* perspective, these products contain one or more operating systems, a collection of utilities, applications, and documentation. The best part is that everyone knows what I mean when I say "z/VM". Having to say "You know, the software offering from IBM that includes CP, CMS, GCS, AVS, TSAF, DVF, SES, ..., and TCP/IP" would just be too exhausting. z/OS is the same thing. It's the name of a collection of widgets that some people find moderately useful. ;-) "Windows" is the same. The public's definition of "OS" and that of my Operating Systems professor in college are miles apart. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html