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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:03 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Password expiration message?

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> This is one of the mystifying things about MVS (there are others).
> Why does it take a Papal decree to find the state of one's account?
> TSO logon does it readily enough.  This information ought to be
> available via a callable service, as readily to any program in
> any environment, such as the FTP "230" message text, as it is to
> TSO logon.  What were the designers thinking?  Were they thinking
> much at all?  Tunnel vision?  ("Why would a TSO user _ever_ want
> to use an MVS service except via LOGON to TSO?")
> 
> -- gil

I agree that this information should be easily available. But if I
understand what I was told (debatable), it is not easily available (like
a "feedback message" upon successful login to be used by the process
doing the login). So, to get all this, somebody needs to present a
business case to IBM, in particular the RACF people, why this is
necessary. Once RACF agrees, then a separate business case is needed for
every product which does a RACF login (e.g. ftp server, UNIX login
server for telnet and/or rlogin, OpenSSH login server, CICS, IMS/TM,
...)

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John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
Information Technology

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