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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 11:04 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: License keys for ISV products(What alternatives 
> are there?)
> 
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> I would find it hard to believe that the unnamed vendor with 
> 9-5 support 
> would have strongly objected for a "one of" weekend support.
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> You'd be amazed at the number of vendors that will NOT 
> provide support 
> outside the 9-5 M-F window. I even had a vendor rep hang up 
> on me in the 
> middle of a call because it was now 5:00 PM where he was. 
> Some of those 
> (unprintables) are unionized and unions havee INCREDIBLE power here. 
> Needless to say, our business relationship with that 
> particular vendor 
> ended the next day. We learned how to manage without his package and 
> saved ourselves a bundle of $$$ besides.
> 
> Names deleted to protect the incompetant. And stoopid!!

Had the same problem, likely with another "vendor". His train left the
station at 5:00 pm Eastern time. He would leave in order to catch his
train, even in a "sev 1" situation. The company's response was to 1.5
hours for him to get home and they would conference him in. Yes, he was
the ONLY person in the company who could help with debugging a problem.
And the SOBs would NOT give the source so that I could fix it. And I
could have. My joy in this is that he has retired and the company no
longer supports direct VTAM communications. And instead of rewriting the
mainframe software to use the new SOA interface, they decided to let the
"experts" in the Windows development here do it. They are still cursing
and writing "work around" to bugs in the vendor's interface.

--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
Information Technology

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