Jim,
I would think that you would be better off having a z/VM LPAR with a number of 
guests from which you can IPL z/OS, rather than having a z/OS LPAR for the OS 
students to play with.  This configuration will allow for IPLing z/OS without 
requiring access to the HMC (either direct or remote).  Just a thought.

Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
JME Software LLC
NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.
Also not a grey beard (hair, now that is another matter) at 41!



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Derry, James E
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Newspaper: IBM Invests $5M in Illinois State Univ.

I can calm some of your fears.  While I have nothing to do with the Academic 
Initiative Program here at ISU, I was the Derry quoted in the article.  Have 
you ever tried to explain a variable priced computer and incremental software 
charges to non-technical newspaper people before.  It ain't easy.  

The z890 that was loaned to ISU will be configured as a model 370 and with an 
IFL.  It will be configured with 4 LPARS.  A z/OS LPAR will be for operating 
system students to install, configure and IPL at will.  I can only imagine how 
many times that will be IPL'ed in a day.  The other LPAR will be a more stable 
z/OS system for teaching DB2, COBOL, Assembler, and other courses.  I heard at 
Educause that a large retail company has donated 2 million rows of 
transactional DB2 data for the Academic Initiative project.  There will also be 
two z/VM LPARS with Linux instances under them.

What I thought was interesting was that the program included any IBM software 
that the students want.

The one thing that did get to me during the ceremony was that they kept talking 
about the old baby-boomers that are currently running the systems.  I don't 
want to be called old at 49.

Have a good day all you gray-beards.

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