Who said free?  I'd happily pay a C-note for software like this (that's $100 
American for our readers in Rio Linda).  That gives IBM a clear $20 profit on 
the deal!  

As to licensing, I'm CERTAIN that the bright bulbs deep within the Armonk 
Giant's underground volcano laboratory in the Carribean (their work overseen 
by Samuel J. Palmisano sitting in a chair stroking a white cat) are developing 
a license-enforcement scheme that Bill Gates could only have fevered (yet 
geekish) dreams about.



On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 18:15:00 -0000, Van Dalsen, Herbie 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Lindy,
>
>I agree with all the points you made below, but...
>
>Surely the copy of windows that you are running is fully licensed?
>Why expect IBM to give it away for free. Dell gives discounts on
>desktops to employees of companies that buy enough Dell servers from
>them, but they do not give it away for free, and you still need to
>include at least an OEM license for Windows. In my Opinion, if you look
>at the true meaning of copyright - it means that like reading a book, it
>cannot be done by more than one person at any given time without buying
>a second copy - everyone should be allowed to use their office license
>at home, because no-one is going to use their office copy while they
>aren't there... Yet, does Microsoft allow this... certainly not. Again,
>why expect it from IBM.
>
>Regards
>
>Herbie
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield
>Sent: 04 Desember 2007 05:13 nm
>To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly
>
>I was thinking (dreaming) today about what if when I giving training for
>MVS stuff and each student had their own mainframe instead of connecting
>to a central one.  We could do so much more.
>
>Here is what I wonder.  Does IBM want to be a software company, a
>hardware company, or a service provider?  Or what?
>
>No matter what, though, making z/OS software accessible for more people
>to learn can only increase IBM's profits no matter what they want to be.
>I mean, come one, I'm not going to replace my spread sheets with a CICS
>application.
>
>Anyway, well put, Doc.
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On
>> Behalf Of Doc Farmer
>> Sent: 4. joulukuuta 2007 18:13
>> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
>> Subject: Re: T3 Sues IBM To Break its Mainframe Monopoly
>>
>> I hate to say it, but I hope IBM loses this legal fight.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Come one, be serious.  How many of us here would LOVE to have our own
>> mainframe sitting on a spare laptop, just for bragging rights alone?
>> "Well, I
>> just finished up this work on my mainframe, and..." is an ego boost
>> equivalent
>> to getting an office visit from the Grace Hopper Cheerleaders!  I know
>> just
>> having a small test platform like that would be a fantastic addition
>to
>> the "cool
>> factor" that a Supreme Nerd God like myself (as verified by
>> http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_nq.php ) needs for street cred with the
>> plastic
>> pocket protector crowd!
>>
>> Come on, IBM!  Make that software available to IBM-MAIN'ers,
>RACF-L'ers,
>> etc., for $100 a pop, and you'll be able to make at least $20 profit
>on
>> each
>> copy.  That'll help your bottom line (not to mention your
>pre-Christmas
>> sales,
>> which I know you depend on for 70% of your annual income) and make
>> several dozen tech-heads like myself very, very happy!
>>
>
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